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Old 07-18-2005, 02:11 PM
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love em hug em..start your training seperately..use a hallway that blocked at one end to teach sit and stay..an easy lesson can teach both sit..then stay simultaniously..(so?) anyway one at a time..two people can leash train..but seperatly at first, until both dogs know what is expected..then after you have the basics down..you can train together. Maybe the guy that wrote that knows what works for his situation, but you can't take that as a blanket statement for all dogs..my boss WON THE NATIONALS 5 YEARS RUNNING with two siblings..NIP and TUCK..geez i gotta find the pic of that you won't believe the trophy..granted it was in the 30's but hunting test are hunting test and i don't think much changes..it's all the effort you put in..and you can do it if you want to badly enuff.. if there is only you..tie one dog where he can watch the other work..you won't believe how much they learn just watching..we did that all the time at the kennels..in fact there was one kennel way in the back where we started the basics on retreiveing..you would let one dog watch while you worked an expereinced dog..then you had that dog sit and stay as a pick up dog while you brought the newbie out..if the newbie refused the bird, you sent the experienced dog and boy howdy did that ever stir the new one up..most of this is common sense, and you are not teaching hunting but basic obedience would work the same way..there was not an aggressive bone in Mary or sally either one..nor did they ever ignore me..they did ply each other for my attention and i was working with two children, one with a medical condition, the other with scouts..a single parent..if i could make it work so can you..silly ol sally would stay up late waiting for me..she would fall asleep sitting up against my leg..she was such a sweetie.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:15 PM
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Well here is my experience with owning tow dogs from the same litter. When I bought Baby I also bought her brother he lived with us until he was 1 year old but he did not have what it took to be a racing dog and so he is now my friend Niki's dog. But Baby and Scoot got along fine through their life growing up.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:41 PM
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here is a pic of our family..starting with buddy the beagel, then Sally, GArg, Tatey their mother, Bin their father and mary in the front..notice all but buddy are in sit and stay. This pic was in my gallery but it has disappeared..don't know where it went this is training three at one time..got another for you for proof..three siblings i will go find the http
http://www.chazhound.com/pictures/sh...00&ppuser=2623 here are three all in the same kennel too.
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:56 PM
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That article doesn't say it can't be done. In fact it says it CAN be done but it is going to take A LOT of hard work. Is that incorrect?
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:58 PM
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I feel much better now. I think the "dog fairy" was watching over me today. I went to the Hum. Soc. to have Daisy's staples removed and was talking with a guy we know there and was telling him what I've read. There was a woman sitting on a bench there and when I was finished with the story she told me she had littermates, a brother and sister, and they were fine. And then I talked to a friend of mine and her aunt had littermates, brother and sister, and they were fine. That made me feel much better. We are determined to make this work b/c we love both of our puppies and can't even imagine giving either of them up. I also found a website that gives some suggestions on how to do it:
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I also love hearing all the stories of everyone that it's worked for! Thanks for making me feel better!
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:11 PM
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sparks, i am not going to negate or debate the article that was posted..that must have been his experience, but i detest a blanket statement that says something is one way for all situations..that is just crap. I don't do the alpha, pack thing, or the dominant stuff, i don't believe it,,,if people do and it works for them then so be it, but it isn't necessary in my book..i do work with labradors, find them willing and easy to teach but i hve also taught a variety of breeds as well..when i was 12 i got a dollar a dog to take it out and teach it to heal, sit and stay..i worked 10 dogs a day after school and then did the kennel work. I advanced to being a trainer for field work..i did it for twenty years so there is a bit of experience to back up my words..i have experienced security dogs at one kennel..and the experience sickened me...but that might have just been that one kennel. Any parent in the world will tell you that you don't know what raising children is until you have 2..and there are many a twin out there that learned how to be social and well behaved children as well, granted it does take some extra work..that is sort of a given.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:33 PM
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I know there are different ways of training dogs and not every dog is the same. However I'm just saying that you shouldn't just dismiss him as being stupid or that he doesn't know what he is talking about. he has been doing this for a lot of years. Much longer than I have even been alive. That's all I am saying. it's not right to say someone is stupid just because they have a different opinion than you (i am not meaning you personally.)
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:00 PM
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sparks i believe there are as many different approaches to training as their are trainers..you have to sift thru all the advice and find what works best for you..i find that thinking of a dog as a child and approaching from that angle works best. for me, i never said the man was stupid, nor dismissed what he wrote..maybe he worked with aggressive breeds on a regular basis which i have not.. as i have posted before..i put forth my best opinion, based on my experience only..write only what i have known to work for me..and what i was taught. My brother says about raising your own children you look at what your parents did, take the parts that you agree with and that you feel worked well, and use that for your foundation..take what you don't agree with and throw it out..and hope that you do at least as good of a job as they did.
Old Boss said always keep your eyes and ears open, that you can learn new tricks to the trade from novices as well as the pros..
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i know you didn't say he was stupid thats why i said not you personally
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:29 PM
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Yes, it can be done.... but as my " Bible" says , you have to be a very special person to bond equally to each pup and to train , socialize , etc separately . You may notice how often we mention Rufus...seldom Penny. He needed so much more time and poor Penny was " there".....we loved her, but I now wonder how great she too could have been.
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