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Old 06-12-2008, 07:20 PM
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Well, I can't chime in on the rehoming of retired dogs from a breeder, but of all the dogs I've gotten as adults (a few from shelters, a few from perfectly fine homes due to unfortunate circumstances), none have had a troublesome transition. They all just took it in stride and did great.

Puppies on the other hand, geez! The howling and the crying, drove me nuts.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:23 PM
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interesting topic here--I view rehoming adults kind of as I view dogs raised by puppy raisers in prep. for guide dog, therapy dog, etc. Isn't it the same? A loving family raised this dog--now surrenders it to someone else, who trains it more, who then surrenders it to yet someone else. Is this wrong?
My opinion--it's in the way it is done....making sure that dog is well cared for by the receiving family. I am sure if I was breeding, I could surrender dogs/pups as long as I was confident that they were going to good homes.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:27 PM
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I wasn't meaning long term emotional damage. I was talking about the "emotional shock" of being rehomed. That kind of thing. Bad wording.

Of course the dog would eventually get over it. It wouldn't be depressed its entire life, lol. I just wouldn't want to subject MY dog to any kind of trauma long term or not.

My point was that a dog doesnt know the difference from being ripped from is irresponsible owners VS being ripped from its responsible breeders. All the dog knows is that they are being ripped from their family, period.
seems to me with this logic...one could never kennel a dog....since they are being ripped from their family. I don't know--I love my dogs, but I don't see this as "emotional shock"--dogs react to their environments--find a good one, and likely the dog will transition well.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:31 PM
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You think so? You think a puppy is not attached to it's Momma..it's breeder...it's HOME...hardly at all? LOL. As a breeder I can say you are very much mistaken, Reggin. My puppies recognize me even if it's been YEARS...their Mother's too. Come now...

Your comparison which I am trying to go along with...is kinda not working out because people and dogs...are different species...with different lifespans...and different ways of bonding. You are forgetting that a scent to a dog is like a memory and many times those memories are strongest when ALL they have...is scents.

ETA: oops look at the time...dinner needs to be cooked...try not to have too much fun imagining the horrors of rehoming while I'm gone!
Oh no, thats not what I am saying. Of course the dog is attached to its momma and misses its mother AND siblings once it is taken away. It is somewhat sad, YEAH! That is very obvious to me.

I was just saying that I personally feel that an ADULT dog that has been in its ONE family for years would have a harder time adjusting to being ripped away from the family they grew up with. They grew, matured, bonded, and got emotionally attached to a family for a long period of time unlike a newborn puppy.

A dog and a human are two different species. Way different, but they are both pack oriented. Thats why I was comparing their EMOTIONAL development and not their MOTOR development like you were.

Well, it was nice debating! For now.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:35 PM
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seems to me with this logic...one could never kennel a dog....since they are being ripped from their family. I don't know--I love my dogs, but I don't see this as "emotional shock"--dogs react to their environments--find a good one, and likely the dog will transition well.
Well, all I gotta say is that I hope am very wrong and you ARE right. lol. In a lot of cases I think its harder on the human to rehome their dog than it is on the dog. But I do think its hard on both.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:57 PM
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I too have rehomed a dogs, either because they weren't working in my particular environment (or the career change guide dog I trained as a service dog). Basically, it's how the dog is raised that will affect how successful a rehoming will be.

If you shelter the dog, and it's never exposed to anyone but you and your family/home, is with the same people all the time, then yes, it could be difficult for the dog to adjust to a new home. But with show/trialing dogs, (reiterating a lot of what has already been said) they are used to going and staying strange places, with strange people handling them, and they adjust much better to the new situation than one who hasn't experienced these things.

That's not to say I wasn't attached to the dogs I've rehomed, but I interviewed the prospective owner, had them meet the dog and watched the reaction. With each case, the dog seemed to understand what was going (yes I'm anthropomorphizing, but I can see it in them) and and they happily went with their new owner/family. I made the decision in the dog's best interest - if they didn't want to do performance work or conformation and that's where all of my weekends are spent (with my other dogs who DO enjoy those things), that dog isn't very happy, now is it?

Now, I do have issues with kennels who breed just to rack up champions and automatically place them after they are finished. I know a few like that and that's a whole 'nother story. The dogs adjust, but the reason is wrong. They are just producing the dogs for the single purpose of increasing the number of champions their kennel has produced. However, this is not the norm.
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colliewog brings up a good point - many breeders that rehome adults still LOVE those dogs - but they know what's best for them, and let them go.

And many people who get retired dogs ring said dog back for "visits". The bitch I spoke of in my previuos post HATES visits, because she doesn't like the hustle and bustle. But whenever she visits, her breeder hugs and kisses her, pets her, loves her to pieces, and gets misty-eyed when it's time to say goodbye.

Many of these breeders truly care for those dogs. IMO they make a huge, selfless sacrifice.

Also like to add that the breeders posted in the original thread... sorry, I don't see a lot of love there. All the breeders that I know that rehome don't formally put the dog up "for sale". They hold onto the dog until they find a suitable home for them. Usually these homes are people with a longstanding (and active) relationship with the breeder, and have owned dogs from the breeder before.

And many will ask to show the dog in Veterans once in awhile, once they reach that age.... since you can show a s/n dog in Veterans. It's a fun reunion.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:11 PM
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Good point about the original post and those dogs - I don't see these as cherished pets who are looking for loving homes either.
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Nope. The topic is always interesting to discuss...the original links don't impress me. But I am not a Rottie person...I do know many GSD people obtain pups or young adults then train them in Sch. and resell...6mo-year or two later.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:18 PM
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I have seen breeders sell older retired dogs to loving homes, and I don't have an issue with that.

However, why would she sell the one bitch pregnant if the 'buyer' would like that? Is she more sellable because puppies are coming along too? Is it suppose to be a, 'what a deal you are getting' situation? Doesn't sound like they are looking after her best interest, or that of the future puppies.

Reminds me of the 2 and 1 horse sale ads I see. Makes me feel as if the breeding was done with little thought, or care.
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