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Old 06-04-2008, 09:19 PM
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Question False Heat???

I have a beautiful Basset named Dolly whom we were hopeing to breed this heat. She is 1 & 1/2 yo & this should be her 3rd heat. What I am questioning is whether or not she possibly has fertility issues. Her last heat in late Nov of '07 she came into heat but barely bled at all & I never even needed the use of puppy pads or diapers because she barely showed any discharge. She should be in heat now but there is absolutely no discharge of any kind. Her vulva is swollen & we have checked for discharge daily to no avail. This is ending the 2nd week of being swollen & we did bring in a male about 5 days ago & there was absolutely no intrest on his part & he has bred prior to us. My question is this, is it possible for her to show swelling but never become fertile??? OH! And her last heat she also experienced a false pregnancy with lactation & all. (we were not attempting to breed her at that time)

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You should be consulting with a repro specialist...Basset's are NOT easy breeders or whelpers...the males often lack libido and the bitches often have issues, too. Your repro specialist can also advise you about why it's not smart to breed puppies...only mature bitches...and what health testing is the norm for your breed.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:02 PM
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Just to answer your question: there can be heats that are "silent" with very few indicators. That can make it very difficult to tell when the fertile period takes place. I'd have her checked by a vet to make sure that the swelling you're seeing isn't from an infection or some other condition.

Now . . . you're probably going to get the third degree about how you've ascertained that this is a bitch who SHOULD be bred . . . I'd suggest you check out some of the threads on breeding here and prepare yourself . . .
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:06 PM
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http://www.basset-bhca.org/Health/healthpolicy.htm
http://www.basset-bhca.org/WebPDFs/thrombopathia.pdf
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At her age, it is not safe to breed her.. she is still a puppy.

Here are some good links for you on reading..

http://www.dogstuff.info/to_breed_or_not.html

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787

This thread, too:

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8916
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Don't dogs have to be over 2 years old for genetic testing ??
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:48 AM
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I have a beautiful Basset named Dolly whom we were hopeing to breed this heat. She is 1 & 1/2 yo & this should be her 3rd heat. What I am questioning is whether or not she possibly has fertility issues. Her last heat in late Nov of '07 she came into heat but barely bled at all & I never even needed the use of puppy pads or diapers because she barely showed any discharge. She should be in heat now but there is absolutely no discharge of any kind. Her vulva is swollen & we have checked for discharge daily to no avail. This is ending the 2nd week of being swollen & we did bring in a male about 5 days ago & there was absolutely no intrest on his part & he has bred prior to us. My question is this, is it possible for her to show swelling but never become fertile??? OH! And her last heat she also experienced a false pregnancy with lactation & all. (we were not attempting to breed her at that time)

Thanks for any advice in advance!!
A silent heat or " false heat" is totally possible. Not all females bleed alot, and it could be that by the time the male was presented to her, it had actually started days before it was noticed. Another option is that just because she was swelling does not mean its a heat. It could be a hormonal imbalence. Some females go through whats called a "split heat". That means some of the signs are there for a heat, but actually its not the real heat, then come right back in like a month to two later.
What vitamins are you giving her?
As far as possibly trying this again, that is up to you. However- many times if there is a fertility problem its passed as a sex link gene mother to daughter. In othere words, the daughters of her could have the same problem. In my personal opinion this is a genetic problem ( if this is the case) and should not be passed on anymore than breeding a dog with hip problems or a heart problem.
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:17 AM
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You should definately hold off making any decisions until your bitch is two years old.
Please refer to some of the links posted. There is a wealth of information there.

Get into contact with your local breed club and ask around for a mentor, they will guide and coach you in the decision to breed.
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I would not trust a male Basset's disinterest, either on this...the breed in general can have issues with male libido. Some do not breed naturally often due to the much heavier males and the possibility of injury to the bitches long back during breeding.
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