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Old 05-29-2008, 04:00 PM
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I know that depending on the dog TOTW can help the pet lose or gain weight - also depends how much you give the pup, like all food. But at least if its grain-free you know they aren't gaining weight on food with a ton of fillers, but actual nutritious ingredients.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:04 PM
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Cranberry helps the kidneys keep the tract clean so it helps dispel what can build up. Keeping the kidneys flushed helps alot and the cranberry helps.
I have no idea what type of mackarel you use but we use the uh " cheap" type and its no where near that much sodium. As a matter of fact, my husband has a heart condition and due to the low sodium as well as what we found out with femka, so low in sodium to cause a problem.
Its only a little bit, but its up to the original poster and their vet if that would help or be a good additive. If the dog had kidney problems before, I am surprised the dog is not on one of the foods for kidney. ( KD diet type..)
And with this condition the support of the immune system is what is going to help here.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:27 PM
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I still do not understand how the cranberry helps kidney function. What builds up in the urinary tract? How does cranberry help with this? My understanding of the use of Cranberry and the urinary system is that it is thought through ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ONLY that Cranberry helps to acidify the urinary tract and prevent lower urinary tract infections. I have never heard of any thought that cranberry helps the kidneys in any way. So I am quite interested in this information if you can direct me to it.

Also, I'm very interested in what brand of Mackerel you are using, as I have not been able to find any that has less sodium. I have also never heard of mackerel as an immune system booster, so would also be interested if you could please direct me to that information as well.

According to Lew Olson, PhD Natural Health, LMSW-ACP,

http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/the-immune-system/

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For under active immune systems (as in the case of after an illness, vaccination or stress) there are many immune enhancing nutrients that can be given to the dog. These can include zinc, selenium with vitamin E, vitamin B-6 (pyrodoxine) and linoleic acid. Also helpful are vitamin C, bioflavonoid with quercitin, vitamin A and betacarotene, B-Complex, , acidolphilus and bifidus and animal based essential fatty acids such as fish oil.
Vitamin C, E and A, along with the mineral selenium are all antioxidants. The idea is that they will destroy the free radicals that form in the bloodstream that multiple during times of lowered immunity. Zinc has also been noted as deficient in dogs with immune related problems. The B complex vitamins are good for stress, and helping with nerves and brain function. The good bacteria, such as acidolphilus and bifidus are depleted during times of illness (and drug use) and are necessary for good digestion and production of vitamin K. Lastly, the essential fatty acids are some natural anti-inflammatory agents, and help regulate and promote good immunity.

There are also several immune supportive herbs. Some good immune-boosting herbs include echinacea, Goldenseal, red clover, dandelion, burdock, cats claw, essiac tea, suma and astralagus. The most effective administration for dogs is a glycerine-based tincture.

As I have noted in other articles, a fresh food diet, either raw or home cooked is the best defense for dogs with the potential of a compromised immune system, either autoimmune or under active. The additions of fresh foods help the dog more readily assimilate nutrients and build a healthy immune system. Dry dog foods are harder to digest and due to the processing, are more prone for the body to develop antigens against the cooked and often preserved ingredients. Fresh food is of higher bioavailability, allowing more energy for the body to fight invading bacteria and viruses, and create and maintain a strong immune system.

Until more research and treatments are discovered for immune problems, the best method to keep your dog healthy is prevention. This would include good nutrition, avoiding unnecessary chemical use in the home and yard, minimal vaccinations and avoiding unnecessary use of antibiotics. Other important factors include routine physical exercise and using common sense to keep your dog***8217;s stress levels low. Dogs that are being shown or working need the best nutrition available, along with routine rests and playtime.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:59 PM
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yes, definatly Satin Balls!

here is the recipe that I am using. (I cut it in half, and i have a freezer FULL of satin balls)
I make them about the size of a small fist. like, I can completely cup my hands around it.

10# hamburger meat
1 jar wheat germ
1 lg box of oatmeal (uncooked)
1 1/4 Cup vegetable oil
10 eggs
10 sm pkgs unflavored gelatin
1 1/4 Cup unflavored molasses
A pinch of salt
1 lg box Total cereal (2lb's)
(You may also add a pinch of garlic powder to add flavor)

Mix all ingredients together well, much like a meatloaf....put into separate freezer bags and freeze, thawing out as needed. It puts weight on in a very short time, not to mention the gloss in their coat. You can use it every day when they have a show to do and it does not produce diarrhea. It can be fed alone or with kibble.
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I still do not understand how the cranberry helps kidney function. What builds up in the urinary tract? How does cranberry help with this? My understanding of the use of Cranberry and the urinary system is that it is thought through ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ONLY that Cranberry helps to acidify the urinary tract and prevent lower urinary tract infections. I have never heard of any thought that cranberry helps the kidneys in any way. So I am quite interested in this information if you can direct me to it.
I don't know how true it is, but I've always heard cranberries are good for the kidneys. Not only from just others in general, but from doctors as well. I don't know the exact reasons for it at all, but it seemed to help my mother with her kidneys.

But like I said, I don't know the exact reasons for this or how true it is. That's just what I've been told.
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I have heard that raw ground beef has to be frozen for 24 hours before you can feed it to dogs. I would wait for a response from the more knowledgeable people here before you give the satin balls. Your dog is beautiful.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:42 AM
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ground meats should be properly handled and kept cold as they can grow large amounts of bacteria fast if not, however, freezing is not necessary.

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Old 05-30-2008, 11:16 AM
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ground meats should be properly handled and kept cold as they can grow large amounts of bacteria fast if not, however, freezing is not necessary.

Thats why when I made them, I put all but what I would need the next day into the freezer. the three that I didnt put into th freezer went int the refridgerator.

Before I go to bed each night, I pull out three more from the freezer and put them into the fridge. So that they stay cold, but thaw out for her to eat.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:23 AM
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I don't know how true it is, but I've always heard cranberries are good for the kidneys. Not only from just others in general, but from doctors as well. I don't know the exact reasons for it at all, but it seemed to help my mother with her kidneys.

But like I said, I don't know the exact reasons for this or how true it is. That's just what I've been told.
Yea cranberry has long been noted to be great for kidney and urinary health.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:30 PM
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Yea cranberry has long been noted to be great for kidney and urinary health.
In humans or in dogs?
Systems are different and things good for us aren't necesarily good for them.
I'd love to see somewhere it says that cranberries are good for a dogs kidney.
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