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LOL- something like that! lol
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Another need to get in touch with them is to advise them if any of the litter has a medical problem that may be herititary .Gives the others a heads up to be watchful .
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One of my dogs breeders was like this. I dont care if you think your way is the best and want to tell me why but demanding anything is going to get you nowhere. We put and end to it real fast...because unless there is something in the contract about food do you really think any court is going to waste their time on a case involving what someone wants to feed their dog?! They would laugh you out of the courthouse and let you feed ALPO for all they care. I am all for hearing good advice from the breeder but truth be told when that dog walks through my door I will be doing what I think is best. |
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and while things do crop up, I would imagine it isn't a huge concern if all valid testing was done. it's more of something I might email the breeder about if I noticed something wrong with my dog that could be of interest to the litter.
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I wonder how many of you would be so brash and adamant if YOU were the ones trying to pick out lifetime homes for the precious puppies you have invested so much time, emotion, and money in.
My puppies are as dear to me as children are to some of you, so excuse me (and others) if we want to make absolutely CERTAIN we never lose contact with the people who have them. And you are darn right, every single puppy that ever leaves here is mine also until it takes the last breath, whether I'm on the papers or NOT. It is easy to sit there in your chair and say this or that, but when YOU are the one who is responsible for bringing these lives into the world, it feels just a little different. Certain breeds such as Rottweilers also have unique qualities that cause us as breeders to maybe want to keep track a little closer than others. JMO as always. |
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But I think people are trying to explain to you (and others) that SS#'s are not an insignificant number that people want floating around. Forgetting that some breeder could be dishonest. What if your house is broken into and the documents are stolen? Would you pay for every past owner to have lifetime credit monitoring and protection? |
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Red, I hardly think anyone faults you for your dedication to your puppies. as mentioned, personal information in this era is still not advised as a means. IF it is for protection of future breeding, then you spay/neuter the pups. but...no matter how careful or caring you want to be, you really have no insurance that once a pup leaves you it is going to be a perfect life. you try best you can, but you just don't have that kind of control. if that's an issue, then maybe you shouldn't breed. like it or not, you are in the lives of those pups if it's desired by the owner...not you. a ss# isn't going to give you that, so it's ridiculous. but if it's been working ok with the people you deal with, then fine for that symbol of comfort for you. but a breeder is a breeder, not a life partner to most.
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Hey RR....I am a breeder and I am responsible and I do NOT need an SS. If you do and that makes you feel more secure then fine.
Now back to generalities... At some point a breeder needs to be able to stop taking credit, and needing ownership (real or imagined) and control...and give some to the people actually raising the dog, imo. I also know how easy it is, ESP on the internet to make oneself sound perfect and fabulous...and be something altogether different IRL. That goes for breeders and owners, both. No piece of paper or number is going to insulate you from that. My puppy folks stay in touch with me and vice versa because they want to...not because I will hunt them down using their SSN...lol.
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If a breeder requires my social security number or driver's license number to get a puppy, I'll RUN away--not walk. I am willing to give addresses, phone numbers, answer numerous questions, provide references and more. But while I love dogs, I have yet to see a puppy worth risking my identify, financial assets and credit security for.
The only places I give that info to are trustworthy places that legitimately need it. For example, businesses or organizations that keep their numbers stored and are prepared for accepting the responsibility and liability of having such things. But an individual? No way in heck. And the thought that an individual breeder would potentially have the social security numbers of numerous people is very frightening to me. What if they're visited by a not-so-savory relative who goes through the files? What if they're robbed? Or what if they just have a moment of carelessness, and accidentally throw an unshredded copy of that info into the trash? Breeders have been placing puppies responsibly for decades without needing such personal info. But if that's the trend that breeders are going towards, I guess I'm going to stick with found strays like Voodoo, or rescues that don't require that info.
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What's SSN ??
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