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Old 04-24-2008, 06:37 PM
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Sapphire - are you looking at importing a dog to be a show dog in Honduras? I only ask because in more than a few breeds, it's not something that is looked upon as responsible for the breeder. Unfortunately many dogs sent to other countries to be shown are mistreated or left to break down... I have heard stories of a few Dobermans sent to Asian countries that have come back in horrible shape. Then again, I know of a few who live in the lap of luxury.

I don't want to scare you - but be aware that here in the US, breeders exporting show quality dogs to other countries is often frowned upon.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
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Sapphire - are you looking at importing a dog to be a show dog in Honduras? I only ask because in more than a few breeds, it's not something that is looked upon as responsible for the breeder. Unfortunately many dogs sent to other countries to be shown are mistreated or left to break down... I have heard stories of a few Dobermans sent to Asian countries that have come back in horrible shape. Then again, I know of a few who live in the lap of luxury.

I don't want to scare you - but be aware that here in the US, breeders exporting show quality dogs to other countries is often frowned upon.
Wow that sounds bad.

I wish breeders could be more understandable with people in general and people in other countries that dosen't have quality.

Like 85% of show dogs here where purshased at petshops . 3% imported from beeders and the rest are visitors from other countries .

Maybe my hope is some mexican breeders that come to show here, seein the other dogs quality with they own eyes can problably want to help getting a good dog. :/


I just think that isen't a breeder's main goal to imprube a breed? so why they keep so many tabs and obstacles to potential buyers who want to have a well breed dog too? some of them aren't even interested in hearing a person that's asking about the dogs.

That's why many people that comes with the nicest intention get desespered and buy from a pet shop.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:13 PM
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From my point of view as a breeder, I am responsible for what my dogs produce, both male and female.

It is my DUTY as a breeder to oversee the show ring and breeding careers of these dogs, and to ensure the ones who should not be bred are NOT. This is what we call STEWARDSHIP of a breed.

One of the reasons why so many breeders are reluctant to sell dogs outside the US is that one loses the ability to really have any control over what happens to and with the dog.

When that puppy is born into your hand, and you watch it take that first breath, after all the blood sweat money and tears that goes into EVERY BREEDING, it is only natural to want the best for those puppies, and to do your best to see to it they are managed and attended to properly.
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Old 04-24-2008, 08:50 PM
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Beagles get exported often. You just have to know the kennels to stay away from. Many many times dogs are finished stateside...paid for by the new owners...then sent overseas to do the same in their own countries and add to the genepool there. The breeder stateside actually visit the other country as well so there is a relationship built.

That is how it is in Beagles. Exporting is done...and it's no biggie. Same with Akitas.
ETA: goes both ways...there are many Beagles here from overseas. UK, Oz/NZ, Europe and Asia.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:31 PM
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Smudge is co-owned. At 24 few breeders actually wanted to talk to me even about pet ownership.. As I had no credit to my name and I was young. Smudge is full registration but co-owned. Doesn't feel like it. I like our contract, and I'd have to agree to take him back to be used as stud. Probably won' t happen as that fizzle out thing mentioned.. I'm not loving the show ring as the cocker people here are brutal.

But I have three titles on my other dog, and am starting to pursue titles on Smudge as well.. I hope in future tryign to find my next dog, It'll give me a step up from where I was looking for Smudge.
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:09 PM
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MissMosaic, everyone here is right on the money, co-ownership is a good thing, especially since the good Siberian breeders are pulling their collective hair out over the number of dogs in petshops and rescue.

Contact Gerry Delakian, I believe she's still involved with the breed club, she should be able to point you in the right direction, but getting a show quality pup from a top notch breeder is kind of like the old Groucho Marx joke, the one about not joining a club that would have him as a member, lol, so be prepared to be unbelievably patient. Irwin Winkler would also be a great breeder to contact, he produces an amazingly beautiful Sibe with temperaments to match, but I don't know how much he's producing these days.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:07 PM
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wow you gusy have really opened my eyes to what co-owning really entails.. I would be very happy to co-own a puppy if the breeder would co-own till all health testing is done, and till she has her championship in the showring . I am looking to show and do agility with my girl. I want a female sibe, not a male. I have no real preferance on color or anything eles along those lines except being show quailty. I have to say thanks to everyone who replied to my thread! I had no idea so many people co-owned dogs!! My best friend wolfsoul- has a belgian, and she is co-owned with her breeder.. she has never had a problem either.. and she still keeps a friendly relationship with her dogs breeder.. I want what she has so badly, she has her dog, and a good realtionship witht he breeder, and she shows/and does agility with her. She just imported some frozen semen, and will be breeding her this upcoming summer.. I am so excited for little baby belgians runnignaround . I dont care about breeding so much, I just want the dog for companionship, and to do activities like showing and agility.. But most of all I want a pet, and if that is what I end up with, I will just sign that spay contract, and have just that... But I am so passionate about showing, I have always wanted to do it.. I don thave any show quality dogs, so I couldn't even enter in the altered class in dog shows.. But I will, one day.. I am determined....



thanks again everyone . I am thinking about going to the states to get my sibe anyways, I haven't had alot of luck in Canada as far as the "look" of the dogs that I want..
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:47 PM
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All the best luck to you in finding that wonderful gorgeous bitch that you wish for so strongly.

I think you will find a great breeder to work with, and I think that breeder will be delighted with what you accomplish with "their" dog.

Keep us posted!
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:16 PM
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It's good to see so many dedicated breeders here !!! I do understand co-ownership in today's world . I was lucky 50 years ago to be able to breed to a Champion without a lot of paperwork ! He was so impressed in Bushwacker he asked me if he could take him to a Golden Speciality 2 states away . Lord I hated to see him off , but he won a 1st and I still use his little silver bowl .
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