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Old 04-22-2008, 07:14 AM
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Okay, this is more of a rant about training... grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I took Morgan out on his morning walk like usual today, and he was an absolute terror!

He has been doing so well for weeks now. Yesterday was the best behaved walk he's ever had! He was focused on me and working to keep a loose leash as we went around the neighborhood.

Today, though, was a completely different story.

He was yanking and pulling on his lead. He was trying to sprint laps around me. He was trying to chew his leash. He was trying to pick up and eat EVERYTHING laying on the sidewalk that would fit in his mouth. He wouldn't listen to a word I said. None of the training techniques we've been using on walks were working today. He just thought it was all one big joke, or game, or SOMETHING! It took us over half an hour just to get around the block. On a normal day we could have covered half the neighborhood in that amount of time!

*pant pant pant*

Ugh, I know you're only five months old, Morgan, but do you really have to test the limits THAT much???

Okay, I'm done. Hopefully tomorrow he will be behaved again, but if this keeps happening I'm going to need some help!
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:42 AM
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FWIW, I just never allow these sorts of behaviors to continue with puppies. I do not allow a tight leash. Ever. Yes, there is more than a little technique to that, but it's very important. It takes two to pull and make a tight leash. SOmetimes you have to work harder than others.

What I tend to see with people is that the TIMING is off. They end up letting the puppy get spinning out of control before they move to do something to either get the pup's attention or redirect it.

Are you going to take a training class with Morgan? I bet that might help you both gain some skills.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:53 AM
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FWIW, I just never allow these sorts of behaviors to continue with puppies. I do not allow a tight leash. Ever. Yes, there is more than a little technique to that, but it's very important. It takes two to pull and make a tight leash. SOmetimes you have to work harder than others.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:58 AM
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I just don't let it happen, Nolu. If a pup gets out to where he is about to have a tight leash, I gently but firmly pull the puppy back to my side and then immediately dump slack in the leash and offer a food reward.

It is important to IMMEDIATELY give back the slack in the leash, even if the puppy moves out ahead instantly and you just have to do it over.

So many people don't even realize they hold their dog on a tight leash almost all of the time. They unwittingly teach the puppy to lean on the collar and pull on the leash. Once a puppy has learned to lean on the collar it is much harder to teach them not to pull. The person who is holding the leash so that the dog can lean on the collar is at least 50% of the equation.

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Old 04-22-2008, 08:12 AM
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I just don't let it happen, Nolu. If a pup gets out to where he is about to have a tight leash, I gently but firmly pull the puppy back to my side and then immediately dump slack in the leash and offer a food reward.

It is important to IMMEDIATELY give back the slack in the leash, even if the puppy moves out ahead instantly and you just have to do it over.

This is EXACTLY what I've been doing! That is why it took over 30 minutes to walk around the block today, because we had to stop and restart. He would pull ahead on the leash, I would stop, quickly put him back in position, slacken the leash, treat him, and we start walking again. Rinse and repeat.

He's been responding to this training very well for the past several weeks. Yesterday, he was even correcting himself if he got too far ahead. He's start to get ahead of me, and before the leash would fully tighten he would ease off and back into position with the loose leash.

That is why this morning is so baffling to me! I've watched training videos, I've listened to everyone's advice on leash training here (except for the one time I was told to NEVER use food rewards), and he was doing great until this morning.

We are not in a training class yet, but I am planning on enrolling him soon. I have a certificate for a training class discount through the humane society where I adopted him. I have been waiting for 1) Morgan to reach the right age bracket and 2) the end of the performance series I've been playing in (evening rehearsals conflict with training class, so once that's done I'm clear to go!).
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:24 AM
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hey, we all have days where we can't pay attention as well, or forget previous lessons.

I bet tomorrow is much better.
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hey, we all have days where we can't pay attention as well, or forget previous lessons.

I bet tomorrow is much better.

I sure hope it's better tomorrow, because this morning was ANNOYING!

It is entirely possible that I was the one that was off today, but I swear that I've been using the exact techniques that you described!
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:43 AM
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oh, I was referring to the puppy re: having an off, inattentive day.

Puppies are just puppies. They have good days, bad days, awful days, and days where sometimes we want to pinch their little heads right off their bodies. LOL

Keep smiling, one day you will look back on those puppy days wistfully with misty eyes.
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oh, I was referring to the puppy re: having an off, inattentive day.

Puppies are just puppies. They have good days, bad days, awful days, and days where sometimes we want to pinch their little heads right off their bodies. LOL

Keep smiling, one day you will look back on those puppy days wistfully with misty eyes.

Oh my, I know what you mean about puppies and off days!

Thanks for the support, Redyre. I'll be sure to ask again if this morning's unruly behavior persists, but I'm hoping that it really is just one of those 5-month-old days for Morgan.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:42 PM
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I feel your pain but it does get better! Puppies do that. Good one day, brats the next. Silly little tykes. If they weren't so cute I don't know how we would tolerate it.

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