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Old 01-25-2008, 02:23 PM
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She doesn't look thin. You definitely want to see a taper at the waist and then back out again at the hips. I agree with the ribs- feel them under the skin, maybe see one, though on a GSD that's not so easy.
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:27 PM
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lol try seeing them on a very hairy JRT.. I just imagine what it would look like if you were to shave them, so they had a coat like a dobe, or dal. Kaiden could be starving and you wouldn't see his ribs lol
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:34 PM
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That's how Gunnar is too, his coat prevents you from really seeing his body tone. Daisy, on the other hand, leaves no doubt to the eye! I am downloading some new pics right now, I'll post them later and you can see if you think she's too thin.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:04 PM
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She looks like she's at a good weight for her age (correct me if I'm wrong but isnt she about 7-8 months). GSD puppies are usually naturally thin and its always best to allow them to fill out naturally. I wouldnt try to put weight on her, she'll naturally do that when she matures.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:12 PM
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Showdawgz, she's 11 months now...

She's fed free choice, so she has the option to eat all day... She's getting better...

I can feel most of her ribs, so she does need some weight... We're working on it.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:16 PM
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How hard do you have to press to feel them (when dekka or Zo are in agility weight you can feel most of their ribs too..but no spine) How is her coat, her energy etc etc? Some dogs are naturally thinner than others (not saying she doesn't need weight..but that maybe you don't need to be stressed about it) Also she will still be growing, so I wouldn't worry too much if she is otherwise in great health.

(interestingly studies have shown that mice, and other animals live much longer, healthier lives when kept quite thin vs what is considered ideal...man I am going to die early but my dogs will live decently long lives)
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:21 PM
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How hard do you have to press to feel them (when dekka or Zo are in agility weight you can feel most of their ribs too..but no spine) How is her coat, her energy etc etc? Some dogs are naturally thinner than others (not saying she doesn't need weight..but that maybe you don't need to be stressed about it) Also she will still be growing, so I wouldn't worry too much if she is otherwise in great health.

(interestingly studies have shown that mice, and other animals live much longer, healthier lives when kept quite thin vs what is considered ideal...man I am going to die early but my dogs will live decently long lives)
I don't really have to press hard at all. Like, when petting her, I can feel them, no problem...
Her coat has gotten a lot healthier in the past little while. Soft, smooth...
And her energy is that of what any puppy I have seen is. She's hyper, goofy, and always on the go! (okay, I lie, she's sleeping now)...
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:43 PM
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Hmm by that definition most agility dogs will be too thin then. I think it depends on the dogs activity level. A 'thin' athletic dog with great muscle tone and a gleaming coat is a different picture than a 'thin' scrawny dog with a dull coat.
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I can't tell you how many times I got a lecture from someone about how I'm starving my dog to death. This was a well-conditioned dog that was also a catch dog in training. He was fed a proper diet and an amount necessary to sustain his energy level and work output.

As for your dog, you do want to have a tuck in at the flanks. When looking from above, if your dog is a straight line on both sides with no indentation, then he/she is overweight. Same as if the dog has no tuck when looking from the side. People often forget that the fat we see on the outisde, doesn't compare to the fat on the inside....and too much internal fat can be fatal.

However, seeing ribs and vertebrae and hip points on a dog that has absolutely no muscle tone whatsoever (muscle atrophy) is a different story.

Here is a pic of my Shar Pei/Cane Corso mix. Notice the obvious tuck in on the sides:
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Most of my pups where thin like that, and they were eating about 8-9 cups of food a day. GSD's have very high metabolisms, so it is beyond me how people can make them so fat.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:08 PM
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Miakoda that first pic is EXACTLY how I like to keep my dogs when competing (but you can't see the definition cause they are to hairy) That is a great pic of a fit dog well a bit blurry but you know what I mean . A fit dog's ribs will just cause the skin to ripple as they trot. Most of the ribs are covered my muscle not squishy fat. If you put your hands on a fit dog they feel 'hard' An under weight dog will feel toneless, unless it is a bag of bones.
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