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Old 06-23-2005, 08:23 AM
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Exclamation Warning About Fraud In Buying Puppies

Wanted to let everyone know about a scam that is going on also, plus past this information on to all breeders that you know. My friend had some doberman puppies that he was selling. Since his computer was down sick with a virus , I was helping him with his Email contacts and replies. I was contacted by a man in London. He was asking about getting a Doberman puppy. He did not care if it was a male or female, show or pet, black or red. the asking price was $500. He said that he wanted to handle the shipping. Well, after several strange emails about the payment and how his shipper was going to contact me, I got a little worried. I even tried to call long distance and he would not talk to me. Well, a money order did come in the mail, no return address, no note, no signature just my name, and way too much money. The next email I got was instructions to cash any payment, keep out the money for the puppy and western union the rest to his shipper. Well, $4600 was way too much $$$$. Then another payment from him for $1850 was received in the way of a cashier check. Again I was told to cash the check and send the rest to the shipper by Western Union in Nigeria!! I call the banks that both check and money order were drawn on and both are fake!! So be very careful!! My friend and I call the local police, the FBI, and the postal inspector. Have not received any more email from the guy? I have heard from a few more friends in my club and circle of dog breeders that they have gotten the same sort of emails. BE VERY CAREFUL!! These type of people are crooks! They are wanting you to cash a bad check or money order that is over the amount of the puppy that you are selling and then send them the difference. Well, it is all a scam!!
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:02 AM
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Wow that guy isn't too bright is he? It's not really hard to make a check or a mail order the right amount LOL.
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:44 AM
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Well, here is the way the scam works. A person pretends to want a dog from you. They always want to handle the shipping themselves instead of you. They send you a money order or check for way over the amount that you are asking. They say they need your help with the transaction. They are hoping that you will put the check or money order in your bank and withdraw the overage to Western Union funds to the "Shipper Agent" before the check or money order that you put in your bank has cleared. By the time you find out that they sent you a bad check(usually 10 days) you have already sent money to them. Now you are out so much money and also still have the puppy, and the scammer has the CASH.. I am still hearing from people today(got 4 emails this morning alone) about people contacting breeders about wanting to buy a puppy. Please be VERY Careful!! This scam could cost you Thousands of Dollars!!
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:42 PM
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The breeder that I got Mack from had the same thing happen. Except the people purchased two puppies from them and paid with the money order. Well the people got away with the puppies and they got nothing. So they were out over a thousand dollars.
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:18 AM
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This kind of thing happens alot MOSTLY on ebay.
Any time i go to sell a mobile phone or a games console i get a email offering me 400 for a phone thats 100 brand new and they ALWAYS want it sent o africa.

NEVER ACCEPT WESTERN UNION or any money order at all.

I heard of a guy who sold his 1,200 laptop on ebay and got a email from western union saying u have received payment, he sent the iteam and realized the link on the payment wasnt to westernunion.com but a different address (the site looked just like western union) by which time it was too late.

If you have to accept payment from abrod use paypal and ship only to a confirmed address and make sure whee it says seller insurence you are eligable.

It might cost you around 5 but at least you know you wont get ripped off.
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:24 AM
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Can i also say how dissapointed i am that the goverment have not made people aware of this before.

This kind of thing happens every day from pups to laptop people are getting screwed out of their goods that they worked hard for and i almost fell for it myself (when selling my tv) we pay tax's for a reson and it's the goverment responsibility to let people know.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:01 AM
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I agree. It is time that something is done to stop this type of scam. I do a lot of business on Ebay and thank the LORD I have had nothing but good. I just got 3 more emails from friends of friends that have had inquiries about their puppies. All have had the same problems with this scam. People who scam like this should be SHOT!
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:05 AM
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Always watch out for anything coming out of Nigeria. For many years Nigeria has been the origin of choice for scams. Even back before internet use there were scams like this coming out of Nigeria.

Most of the scams revolve around the temptation to make some quick, easy money. If you aren't tempted by quick, easy money you're a much more difficult mark. These people probably do manage to rip off a lot of backyard breeders - someone responsible would want to know a lot more about where a pup was going than an address and would never consent to let a third party arrange for transport.
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:10 AM
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I would be suspicious of anyone who wanted a pup and wasn't willing to come and inspect it before purchase, I mean mail order pups!! You could be getting any old dog!! I think that is taking internet shopping a bit far!
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:13 AM
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Actually, when you want a specific breed or specific bloodlines it's a good way to be able to get that, but you do have to do your homework thoroughly on the breed and breeder!
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