Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dogs - General Dog Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 12-09-2007, 03:16 PM
SharkBait's Avatar
SharkBait SharkBait is offline
Hi, I'm Melissa!
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northern Ireland [UK]
Posts: 1,128
Default

so when do you switch food for small puppies? Matisse is almost 5 months old and still on puppy food, is this okay? when should i switch him to adult food?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-09-2007, 03:34 PM
jess2416's Avatar
jess2416 jess2416 is offline
Who woulda thought <3
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 22,560
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renee750il View Post
If she meant Large Breed Puppy, and told you those were the only two brands that made it, then she outright lied to you . . . I think I'd be checking into other vets.
Agreed.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-09-2007, 03:41 PM
PoodleMommy PoodleMommy is offline
Yorkie Love
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,443
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by copperdogsmom View Post
I think its good too but I do know that there is better out there.So I am not a confrontaional person so next time we go to the vet I will lie and say I switched.
Its really not a smart idea to lie to your vet... I totally understand your problem... but what if down the line your dog has a problem related to the food and the vet doesnt even know what the dog is really eating? it will be harder for them to help you. Honestly, if your vet cant see your side... I would look for a new vet, one who respects your opinion... teddy is our dog and you have every right to feed him whatever you want. Good Luck...Elissa.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-09-2007, 03:49 PM
makenzie71 makenzie71 is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 747
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaPrincess View Post
Vets aren't who I'd talk to about food.. Limited education on nutrition.. and most get a kickback pushing the food they are selling..
Exactly. Never listen to a vet concerning what food is best. Ask breeders and enthusiasts.

Though it is important to not over-feed a dog, I don't think a particular variety will stunt the growth process substantially enough to improve hip/joint health later in life. I'd just work to keep the dog in the ideal weight range.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Psyfalcon Psyfalcon is offline
Fishies!
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 2,364
Default

I wonder if anyone has found studies and actual proof?

It seems to have started with Danes, Saints and Newfies, the idea that they need restricted exercise, no jumping, and can't have puppy food. Then it was GSDs and labs, and now its BCs. Meanwhile I haven't actually seen anything backing it all up.
__________________
Buster
PhotoBlog
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-09-2007, 04:15 PM
shadowfacedanes's Avatar
shadowfacedanes shadowfacedanes is offline
*Biter*
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,925
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyfalcon View Post
I wonder if anyone has found studies and actual proof?

It seems to have started with Danes, Saints and Newfies, the idea that they need restricted exercise, no jumping, and can't have puppy food. Then it was GSDs and labs, and now its BCs. Meanwhile I haven't actually seen anything backing it all up.
The research and info is out there, you just need to look for it. Tons of studies have been done on this subject, at least for giant breeds.

Here's a place to start:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/58...scription.html

http://personal.palouse.net/valeska/...ium-energy.htm

As far as needing research to tell me that my giant breed doesn't need to pound around excessively until his body has developed, and needing research to tell me that growing too rapidly is harmful...I just don't need scientific proof. Owning giant breeds has taught me plenty. Most of it just seems logical.
__________________


Ditto - 2 year old APBT and Corvus - 7 year old supermutt
I need a signature re-vamp. Anyone up for the task?

Paws Jaws and Wrecking Balls
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Psyfalcon Psyfalcon is offline
Fishies!
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 2,364
Default

The first one is a patent, inventors have been known to "pad" the need for their products.

The second one says Protein is not a problem, but excess calcium or just eating too much and putting on too much weight. So why do we see all the large breed puppy foods that are relatively low in protein?

Sometimes something that seems logical is wrong, or at least not the whole story, especially when applied to much different breeds. A BC is not the same as a Dane!
__________________
Buster
PhotoBlog
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 12-09-2007, 06:08 PM
bubbatd's Avatar
bubbatd bubbatd is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 64,812
Default

Good vets care for the health of your dog ...... they have food there to sell if you want it . When I told my vet that I switched Ollie to Canidae , she approved . I've never in all my years had a vet suggest I'd switch to anything they sold .
__________________
A light for all who are crossing dark times.


http://mauzysmusings.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-09-2007, 07:05 PM
FoxyWench's Avatar
FoxyWench FoxyWench is offline
Salty Sea Dog
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 7,308
Default

i agree with what everyone else has told you...

vets PUSH for the brands they sell and they tend to use the lack of good FREE knowledge (off the web) to their advantage, why?! because they make money from selling certain brands.

a BC is NOT a large breed, while its true that LARGE breeds shouldnt be on puppyfood for very long (if at all) a BC is not a large breed.
however a high quality all life stage food should be fine.

ive never heard of "adult puppy" and "large breed Puppy" tends to be the exact same food as any other puppyfood...
__________________

I wonder if other dogs think Cresties are members of some weird religious cult?

Adventures In Cluck Clucks, watch them grow @
http://suburbancluckclucks.blogspot.com

Hand Made Fleece Blankets

Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-09-2007, 07:13 PM
shadowfacedanes's Avatar
shadowfacedanes shadowfacedanes is offline
*Biter*
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,925
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyfalcon View Post
The first one is a patent, inventors have been known to "pad" the need for their products.

The second one says Protein is not a problem, but excess calcium or just eating too much and putting on too much weight. So why do we see all the large breed puppy foods that are relatively low in protein?

Sometimes something that seems logical is wrong, or at least not the whole story, especially when applied to much different breeds. A BC is not the same as a Dane!

The patent article links to research studies.

Large breed puppy foods are not just low in protein. The calories and fat are lower as well. At least in quality formulas.

I'm very aware that a BC is not the same as a dane...but to many vets, a "large" breed is one that is over 50 pounds at maturity.
__________________


Ditto - 2 year old APBT and Corvus - 7 year old supermutt
I need a signature re-vamp. Anyone up for the task?

Paws Jaws and Wrecking Balls
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:37 AM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site