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Old 12-08-2007, 09:47 PM
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Another point, do you realize how difficult it is to find a place to live with a Pit Bull Terrier? I've had people refuse to rent to me because I have a border collie! Honey, don't bank on your boyfriend being there to support you in the future. Make your own life and allow him into it, but you're not doing yourself any favors by relying on someone else for everything!!

To everyone in this thread: I agree with you guys but at this point why don't we try to offer Cowgirl some advice and support for raising her new puppy? Even if he doesn't spend his whole life with her, the work she does with him now will make all the difference in how he acts when he's older.
Maybe she should ask questions about raising a puppy that young in the puppy forum, or maybe the breeding forum since, essentially, she's doing what a good breeder should've been doing as far as socialization and such. Some of our chaz breeders may have some advice not normally needed for older puppies.


And though I agree that what's done is done and she needs to start raising the puppy right and given plenty of support for that, she also needs to think of her actions and reflect on those actions. Think of the future for this puppy and herself. Ar, I can't say what I'm trying to in the right manner. Maybe someone else will say it correctly where it makes sense.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:58 PM
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Why is it that " kids " feel that they either need a puppy or a baby these days ???? not enough love at home ????
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Selfishness. Not enough accountability for when things go wrong. Plus they don't seem to care about how to plan for the future.

It seems to me like no one takes into account what could happen, they want what they want and they will get it at all costs. Then when it goes wrong they blame others. Or their situation, when if they would've looked at it before getting the dog (or having a baby) they would've seen they weren't in the right place to be getting a dog (or having a baby) anyways.

And what if there isn't enough love at home? We should shame the person for getting a puppy? So they can feel loved and needed? Might not be the right medicine, but sometimes we don't always know what the right medicine is at the time of need.

I don't know the history and I don't really care to get caught up in the drama of it if there is any, but there is always a time for things to get and be better. There's a rhyme and reason to each individual getting a dog and while I may not agree with it, what is done is done.

How many of us can look back and say it was the perfect decision and place in our lives for us to get our dogs? I can't. We got Buddy and we paid thousands to get him better, we were newlyweds. I could go on and on and reflect back on what was done and think of how it could have been different but it doesn't mean anything in the here and now because it's in the past. And what I have now- my precious Buddy, alive and by my side- no one can take that away from me.

So, we should all be taking this time to educate and to better the world for this 4 week old puppy. After all, isn't that what we are here for?
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:06 PM
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OP aside, how INCREDIBLY sad and irresponsible of a breeder to sell (in this situation dump) a puppy at three weeks! The dam's role is not just to feed her puppies!!!!!!!! If she can't produce adequate milk, fine. There are formulas in those situations. She is still needed to teach the puppy how to interact and be a DOG. The littermates together for at least 8 weeks fill an important role as well. Sounds to me that this breeder didn't want to do his/her JOB when the going got tough. I am so angry right now!

OP- Good luck to you with this puppy. Read and do everything you can to be sure this puppy gets the life it deserves!
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:08 PM
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And what if there isn't enough love at home? We should shame the person for getting a puppy? So they can feel loved and needed? Might not be the right medicine, but sometimes we don't always know what the right medicine is at the time of need.

I don't know the history and I don't really care to get caught up in the drama of it if there is any, but there is always a time for things to get and be better. There's a rhyme and reason to each individual getting a dog and while I may not agree with it, what is done is done.

How many of us can look back and say it was the perfect decision and place in our lives for us to get our dogs? I can't. We got Buddy and we paid thousands to get him better, we were newlyweds. I could go on and on and reflect back on what was done and think of how it could have been different but it doesn't mean anything in the here and now because it's in the past. And what I have now- my precious Buddy, alive and by my side- no one can take that away from me.

So, we should all be taking this time to educate and to better the world for this 4 week old puppy. After all, isn't that what we are here for?
As true as that is, you should still take the time to LEARN from your past actions and possibly help people to realize it before they mess up.

With azcowgril, I personally feel like she should be reflecting on why this action wasn't necessarily the right time. No, we can't change the past but we CAN LEARN FROM IT. (not yelling, just emphasizing) I feel she should learn from her past actions, which so far seems she hasn't, as this new puppy clearly shows. I know she didn't get the dog, but she obviously isn't discouraging it in the slightest.

I think she should be looking at her options now, think about what might happen in the future considering her situation. Not that she can think of everything, but she should be at least able to pay for the basics without relying on her boyfriend of only TWO months. That's really not long enough to know someone is horribly dependable and I feel like she should be learning how to take care of herself right now. Not relying on someone else, that's how people get themselves in trouble.

And if her current bf isn't showing her enough love, and she NEEDS a puppy to make up for that, that's even more reason to think of how she's going to take care of herself and this puppy in the future! She NEEDS to think of how to pay for the BASICS. Especially what RD pointed out. Where is she going to live if she breaks up with her BF with a pit bull puppy? How will she pay for vet care? What about training? Food? etc.

Love does not conquer all. Life is harsh and not fair. We don't always get what we need.

And I know we all make mistakes. I certainly shouldn't of gotten Lucas or Chloe! It was NOT the right time for me to be getting a dog looking at what my situation was like. But I look at that and have learned from that past mistake.

I'm not saying she should just wallow in shame because she got this puppy, but she needs to learn from it so she thinks before getting, maybe discuss with her bf about the future of the dog and who's it is.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:10 PM
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That's why I recommended the book .....to start in what the poor pup lost at 3 weeks . What's done is done .... right now we're here for the pup !! No more bashing .!
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Agreed, now the advice should start.
I think a vet should be contacted asap, to book an appointment for when the pup can have its first vacc's. Now that the pup is no longer receiving antibodies from momma's milk they will start to run out (can't remember how long that takes). Caution is needed at this point as to where the pup is taken outside for housetraining, avoid any areas that you even suspect other dogs have been. Do not take this young pup to parks etc, the risk is much to high. The pup should also be dewormed, as I suspect it hasn't been yet.
Personally after the pup has had its first vacc's I would start socializing it to as many other dogs as possible without scaring it. If someone has a very maternal female, then the pup has to spend time with her and as much as possible. Along with allowing as much free play time with another puppy of the same size and near its age as long as that pup isn't too dominate or submissive, a nice confident pup that plays nice would be great.
Read the articles posted bite inhibition!! You have to teach this pup now, how to play properly with humans, with boundries and limits.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:28 PM
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I'm not sure when we all became psychologists.

OP- best of luck with the pup, take the advice adojrts has given you and get that pup to see a vet pronto. Get the book Grammy always recommends and read it. Read threads. Educate yourself. Do the best for this pup and remember, dogs are not disposable, they are partners for life.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:35 PM
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I'm not sure when we all became psychologists.

OP- best of luck with the pup, take the advice adojrts has given you and get that pup to see a vet pronto. Get the book Grammy always recommends and read it. Read threads. Educate yourself. Do the best for this pup and remember, dogs are not disposable, they are partners for life.
You didn't know? I've been a psychologist since I was 4! uh huh.


Seriously now, I won't say anything else here. I swear! OP, I just hope you seriously think about your actions and plan for the future.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:06 PM
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It's illegal in Colorado to sell puppies under the age of 8 weeks of age. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Very irresponsible on the breeders behalf, and illegal.

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:19 PM
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It's illegal in Colorado to sell puppies under the age of 8 weeks of age. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Very irresponsible on the breeders behalf, and illegal.

Best of luck...
If it's illegal, you could report the breeder.
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