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Old 11-19-2007, 10:42 PM
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IMO, once you start breeding primarily for an "unusual" color you're asking for trouble. In any breed. What justifies these dogs to be a separate breed, other than "they're so pretty"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a white shepherd and a German shepherd are mated, won't all the babies have dark coats? (Unless the German shepherd carries a recessive gene for white, which I imagine is very rare?) If so, that severely limits the amount of breeding stock available for white shepherds. Personally, I wouldn't risk it. I would get a usual colored German shepherd if I were interested in that kind of dog.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:46 PM
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:18 PM
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Aloof is a funny description, but accurate. If any one of you came to my house, Gunnar would come up to you, sniff you, let you pet him a bit, maybe lick your hand, and then he's done. He'll go lay down. Unless we're outside and he brings you a toy, and you are dumb enough to throw it for him. Because once that starts, you can't end it!
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:48 AM
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Thats one of the things i love about working breeeds, they they don't need to be all over people. Buster defends untill he knows everyone is fine, then he sniffs then looses interset.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:36 AM
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In Europe white GSD is recognized as White Swiss Shepherd by FCI-Federation Cynologique Internationale and they compete in dog shows.Standard has very few differences from standard of American-Canadian White Shepherd


Temperament for American-Canadian White Shepherd
The White Shepherd has a distinct personality marked by a direct, but not hostile expression of self-confidence. It is poised but when the situation demands, it should be eager and alert, ready to serve in any capacity such as companion, watch dog or service dog. To his inherent aptitude as a guardian of flocks should be an added protectiveness of the person and property of his family. With those he knows well, he should be open and friendly. With strangers, he should be observant and may be somewhat aloof but never apprehensive. Timidity, shrinking behind the handler, lack of confidence or any other display of poor character or aggression are severe faults. Dogs displaying such pronounced character flaws should be excused from the ring. Any dog that attempts to bite the judge must be disqualified.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:56 AM
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The problem with that description is that too many white GSDs are timid, fear biters, and generally lacking in the desired traits because they are being bred for color. When you breed for color, the other traits take a back seat.
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:02 AM
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its not just when you breed for colour..its when you breed for one trait, at the expense of the others. Most show breeders breed for colour to a point. Breeds standards will require certian colours of pigment, toenails fur etc. In most cases I find it ridiculous. If it doesn't' affect the dogs working ability, health or temperament what diff does colour make?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:07 AM
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I think it'd result in health problems. Especially breeding white to white.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:38 PM
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This is a question of good versus bad breeders and not good or bad breed.I have seen only a couple of this dogs and they all had sound temperament.Perhaps the reason for this is that they are not very popular breed in Croatia and their is only a handful of breeders who keep temperament of the breed in mind when breeding.I have no idea how many of breeders abroad keep to this,but than again those who dont are bad breeders.
I cant see anything wrong in breeding for a certain colour if one pay attention on dogs temperament and health.I love GSDs but only working lines.There are many black GSDs between them and they are used for army and military service.This dogs do not fit any show standard and to me this dogs are much better looking than any show GSD in any colour.I am saying this because someone said that getting a dog with a certain coluor is stupid-in another thread.Now a couple weeks back I was offered a black GSD bitch -9 month old from army-military breeding.She is a beauty,doesnt fit any GSD standard-by looks and has a good temperament.If I hadnt fall in love with groens I would have probably taken her.She went to a good home-I meet her to day.So what exactly is wrong in liking a dog in particular colour and why is it different wanting a GSD in certain colour if you get a dog from a reputable bredeer who has dogs who have a good temperament and are healthy.And how is it different from wanting a chocolate lab for example.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
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Joce ... that is so dumb of the owners !!!! Who knows who bred to who !!! He should be turned in .


But to who? Its not against any laws here(no limit on how many dogs and supposedly there is a kennel license for the property) and he isn't registering the pups so he can't get those rights taken away. The Dog warden has been out there multiple times and the erie shores guy my cousin goes through went down to talk with him about spaying and neutering thinking he just had it get out of control. The man actually said he doesn't believe in getting dogs altered. He told him instead of a contract to alter he tells them to breed to continue the great lines There are literally pups of every age running around.

I need to get pics one of these times I go by. You can't even imagine
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