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Old 11-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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i must be unlucky then, all of the whites ive ever met are from bad byb's and have serious helth issues (more so even than some of the byb "regular" german shepards)

i dont know much about the UKC

im sure if properly bred they are just as wonderfull, just like with any breed, i guess a repoint would be if you were buying one, be EXTRA carefull screening your breeder.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:19 PM
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Actually the UKC doubly recognizes the White German Shepherd. They register it separately as the White Shepherd, and it has its own classes at conformation shows. In addition this is the section of the official UKC German Shepherd Dog breed standard relating to color.

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The German Shepherd Dog comes in many colors and white. In evaluating colored dogs, strong, deep colors are preferred. Nose, lips, and eyerims must have dark pigment, regardless of coat color. Color faults are minor in comparison to defects of type and structure.

Serious faults: Pale, washed-out colors; blue; liver.

Disqualification: Albinism.

So, you see, it's just the AKC in its infinite wisdom that has decreed that German Shepherd dogs can't be white. It's just that some people take the AKC as the be-all and end-all of dog information and conclude that if the AKC says it is true it must be true.

The AKC does not decree anything regarding breed standards. Breed standards are written, and are owned by, the individual national breed clubs.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:50 PM
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There is a crazy man who lives by my cousin who used to breed them. He fenced in his yard though so the dogs could breed freely and now the white seems to have disappeared This guy has literally 100 dogs and nothing anyone can do because they are fed-look inbred and sick but they have food and water. But thats a whole nother story. Thats my only experience with them and they are sickly but I blame that all on the idiot who owns them.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:29 PM
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Aww, sorry to hear about that Joce. Those poor dogs.

One other thing I forgot to tell you to watch our for, are people advertising "Giant" white shepherds. Some are byb, some those folks really screen hard for hip and elbow problems, but the best ones are the folks that outcross to really healthy colored lines and try to keep their dogs within the GSD standard (barring color of course).
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:38 PM
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Joce ... that is so dumb of the owners !!!! Who knows who bred to who !!! He should be turned in .
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:43 PM
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I don't have anything to contribute to the white shepherd debate.. but good god.. I think I'm going to STRANGLE the next person who tells me they want such and such breed in a particular color. I'm going to see one of our family friends today, and he has two boys who are a few years younger than me and are dead set on buying a $5,000, "guard dog trained," Black [Insert an impressive name here that came straight from a puppymill] German Shepherd. A puppy (An ATTACK-trained puppy?). If you're laughing or groaning right now, you're not the only one. They have two dogs at their mom's house, both with severe behavioral issues, and their dad has never had a dog before, so I'm trying to convince him to go to the VA GSD Rescue. *sighhhhh* They have older dogs who are housebroken, crate trained, basic obedience-trained, etc that will suit their needs far better. These guys really do have the best intentions.. but good god.. their dad knows nada about dogs and is basically letting the thirteen year old do all the research. I'm beyond appalled.
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grammy covered it...
it is an undesirable trait and most have MANY health issues (more than gsds are prone too, especially since the ones breeding them are byb's)

however they occasionally show up in shelters...in which case, give one a good home
It's a crock that WGSDs have any more health issues than any other GSD. The white is caused by a masking gene, it's not albinoism
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Why do people want to buy trouble !!! Get a gun and let a dog enjoy life !
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:24 PM
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It's a crock that WGSDs have any more health issues than any other GSD. The white is caused by a masking gene, it's not albinoism
again aparently ive been unlucky but ive NEVER met a well bred white gsd and in comparison to "regular" gsds ive seen the whites tend to be more prone to health problmes...
this is based on my personal expereince as well as my vets, mabe i just live in an area with a high voume of very badly bred white gsds...
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The whites I've met have been, on average, healthier and better tempered (and certainly far less nervous) than their standard-colored counterparts. However, the coolest GSD I know is tan with a black saddle.
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