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Old 11-15-2007, 04:20 PM
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I hear you on the wanting too many.. It's bad when you have a puppy and are thinking about future dogs already, and how to accomplish getting to own each on the top of your list without having a huge zoo all at once
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:35 PM
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That's the standard poodle mentioned above
I didn't see it...maybe we post it at the same time...
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:40 PM
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MP thats why i plan on haveing a 100 acre farm
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ooh you are right Nicco.. you and the person above you did post at the same time, lol.

Ahhh that's totally what I need.. Nice ranch in the middle of nowhere and like 8 dogs
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Mine will be more like 10 LOL Cuz i will haev house dogs and working dogs.
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I don't think Komodorok shed...they are QUITE large dogs.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:55 PM
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IM not sure I know they are high maintence though
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IM not sure I know they are high maintence though
Yeah, but you could probably keep them in a puppy clip, just like a poodle. If you didn't care about the cording, I suspect they'd be just like a poodle, which isn't that bad.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:35 AM
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that BRT dog is a pretty calm dog though?
a lot bigger then a giant schnauzer?

right now i have two boxers i love to death, im just looking for my next breed, a must is a non shedding dog first off all, i can't stand all this hair from the boxers, i hate it.
second i would like something a little more calm and something with a little bit more guard in it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:49 AM
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Here is the FCI standard for the BRT. They are used in SCH. and as gaurd dogs they were originally developed by the former Russian Red Army to guard military installations, border troops, prison camps, penal colonies and police forces etc. They required a dog able to work independently and to withstand various climatic conditions. They require a dog experienced owner. They have a high activity level and it wary of strangers. THEY ARE NOT A DOG FOR EVERYONE



GENERAL APPEARANCE: The size of the Black Terriers is larger than an average dog. Black Terriers are strong, with massive bone structure and well-developed muscles. The skin is tight and elastic, without any folds or dewlap.Dogs of this breed are assertive, wary of strangers and resistant; they adjust easily to different climates. The Black Terrier must yield to training.



PHYSICAL APPEARANCE: Robust and rustic.
Faults: Feeble or fragile appearance, insufficient muscle tone.
Major faults: Light bone structure, weak muscle tone, frail and weak constitution.

INDEX OF THE FORMUT: The proportion of the length of the body vs. the height at the withers is 100 : 105.
Faults: Format slightly too large (106 : 108)
Major faults: Format too large (in excess of 108)



HEIGHT AT THE WITHERS: Male dogs : 25.7 - 28.1 inches (66 - 72 cm) Bitches : 25.0 - 27.3 inches (64 - 70 cm).
Faults: Slightly leggy or short on the legs. Height at withers of male dogs below 25.7 inches (66 cm) or above 28.1 inches (72 cm); height at the withers of bitches below 25.0 inches (64 cm) or above 27.3 inches (70 cm).
Major faults: Rump set too high or withers too low. Height at withers of male dogs below 25.4 inches (65 cm) or above 28.9 inches (74 cm); height at withers of bitches below 24.6 inches (63 cm) or above 28.1 inches (72 cm).

Behavior/Temperament: Extremely energetic, hardy, stable temperament, but very lively, with strong reactions of defence.
Faults: Timid, excessively excitable, passive.
Major faults: Fearful, extremely excitable, extremely passive.




CHARACTERISTICS TYPICAL FOR EACH SEX: Clearly expressed, depending on the sex. Male dogs are of greater size, more masculine and more massive than bitches.
Faults: Minor deviation from the required sexual characteristics.
Major faults: Strong deviation from the required characteristics. Male with a feminine appearance or vice versa.



COAT: The hair is rough, hard, ample and extremely dense. The broken's hair length is between 1.6 and 3.9 inches (4 - 10 cm) and covers the entire body. On the muzzle, the coat forms a rough, brushy moustache on the upper lip and a beard on the lower lip. Above the eyes, the eyebrows are rough and bristled. On the neck and the withers, the coat is longer and forms a mane. The forelegs down until the elbows and the hind legs until the thighs are covered by a rough and long coat. The undercoat is dense and well-developed.
Faults: Straight hair, not broken. Wavy hair, soft hair, hair longer than 3.9 inches (10 cm). Insufficient formation of moustache, beard or eyebrows. Frizzy hair.
Major faults: Hair too long (in excess of 5.9 inches (15 cm),soft hair, falling hair, short hair, smooth hair; absence of coat developments on head or legs.



COLOUR: Black or black with grey hairs.
Faults: Brown or grey shadings, small white spot on chest.
Major faults: Brown or grey coat, reddish patches; white spots on chin, head, neck and legs.



HEAD: Long and moderately narrow skull with well-rounded cheekbones. The forehead is flat. The stop is marked but not too pronounced. The muzzle is parallel with the topline of the skull. The muzzle is massive, slightly tapering. The length of the muzzle is slightly less than the length of the skull. The moustache and the beard give the muzzle a truncated and square appearance. The lips are thick and full. The upper lip is adjusted to the line of the lower jaw without forming flews.
Faults: Head too small, forehead rounded, stop hardly marked or excessively pronounced, protruding cheekbones, soft lips.
Major faults: Coarse head, too light or too heavy, rounded head; muzzle short, pointed or turned-up.



EARS: Attached high on the head, hanging down straight from the base, small and triangular in shape. The front rim of the ear hangs down against the cheekbones.
Faults: Ears set too low; long ears, flying ears, ears held apart from the cheekbones.
Major faults: Ears standing up froe the base, semi-erect ears.



EYES: Small, oval shaped, slanted, dark in colour.
Faults: Big eyes or eye colour not sufitciently dark. Visible third eyelid. Visible haw. Presence of a milky spot on the eye.
Major faults: Light coloured eye, cross-eyed.



TEETH: Strong, white in colour, closely positioned. The incisors are positioned in one line, the bite is a scissors bite.
Faults: Poorly developed teeth, teeth not corresponding with age, damaged teeth which do not interfere with the proper occlusion of the bite. Absence of up to two of the first premolars or absence of one of the first premolars and one of the second premolars. Light tar build-up.
Major faults: Very small teeth, missing teeth; incisors not aligned; any deviation from a scissors bite; absence of an incisor or a canine, absence of a third or a fourth premolar or any molar. Teeth with severely damaged enamel.



NECK: Long, massive, dry, set at a 40 - 45 degree angle to thetopline.
Faults: Short neck, blocky neck, showing a dewlap or held low.



CHEST: Large, deep, showing several well-sprung ribs. The lower part of the chest is positioned at the level of the elbows or slightly below this level.
Faults: Ribs not well sprung, chest not descending to the level ofthe elbows, ribcage slightly flat.
Major faults: Barrel shaped ribcage, too wide, not enough let down,flat or narrow.



ABDOMEN: Set above the lower line of the chest.
Faults: Strongly tucked-up or whippety abdonen.



WITHERS: High, clearly marked above the dorsal topline.
Faults: Low, poorly developed withers.



BACK: Straight, large, muscular.
Faults: Weak back, narrow or insufficiently muscled.
Major faults: Concave or convex back.



LOIN: Short, wide, muscular and slightly arched.
Faults: Long, insufficiently rounded.
Major faults: Badly coupled, narrow or very arched.



RUMP: Large, muscular, with a barely visible slope towards the tail, which is set high on the croup.
Faults: Horizontal rump or slightly sloping rump, insufficlently muscled.
Major faults: Slanting or narrow rump.



TAIL: Set high, thick and docked short, leaving 3 to 4 vertebrae.
Faults: Tail set low, incorrectly docked tail.
Major faults: Tail not docked.



FOREQUARTERS: Seen from the front, the legs are straight and parallel. The angle of the shoulder-blade with the upperarm is approximately 110 degrees. The elbows must point backwards. The forearms are short and vertical. The pasterns are short and straight.
Faults: Shoulder slightly too straight, elbons slightly turned inwards or outwards; pasterns weak, outwards or inwards.
Major faults: Upright shoulder; strong deviation of the elbows; deviation of the forearm; knuckling over, down or pastern.



HINDQUARTERS: Seen from behind, the legs are straight and parallel, but held more wide than the front legs. The thighs are muscular and well developed. The lower thighs are long and set obliquely. The hock joint is dry and well developed. The hocks (metatarsals) are massive, long and almost vertical.
Faults: Weak muscle tone, short legs, slightly cow hocked legs (or bow-legged). Angulations slightly too straight or the angle at the hock too narrow. Hare feet.
Major faults: The same as above, but more pronounced. Rump too high. Hock jointsperfectly straight or with a very narrow angulation.



FEET: (Fore- and hind feet) : Thick, with well arched pads, rounded in shape.
Faults: Feet pointing outwards or inwards.
Major faults: Feet flat or crooked.



MOVEMENT: Easy, harmonious and fluid. A slow trot or the gallop are the most typical movements. When trotting, the legs must move in a straight line, with the front legs converging towards a median line. The back and the loin show an elastic movement.
Faults: Slight deviation from the requirement that the legs move in a straight line. Insufficient extension of the front or hind legs.
Major faults: Restricted or clumsy movement, movement of the hind legs not straight (crab-like movement), unbalanced movement of the rump (rolling movement of the hindquarters), pacing movement.

FAULTS: Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree.



DISQUALIFYING FAULTS: Any deviation from the scissors-bite requirement. Parti-coloured coat. White markings on feet. Red patches. Gray coat. Absence of an incisor or a canine. Absence of any third premolar or any fourth premolar. Absence of any molar.
A dog showing any sign of aggressiviness or physical abnormality must not be qualified.



N.B.: Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.




Standard FCI N 327/19.2.96


The Komondor on the other hand has a moderate activity level BUT they require grooming unless you shave them down. Other then that most guardian breeds have longer coats or a coat like the boxer.
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