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Old 06-13-2005, 07:01 AM
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Plenty of blame and stupidity to go around there . . . including whoever came up with the headline "the best Chicago dog story ever"???? Maya was heroic - that was good, but she's badly injured, a kid is badly hurt, another dog is dead, and somewhere there is an idiot running around who thinks a 120 pound dog who looks "like a wolf" is a Pit Bull.
Once again you beat me to the point....How is this a good story? Too much death to be good anything.

120 lbs pitbull? Pitbulls are meant to be around 60lbs or less...There is a lot more to that dog than pitbull. "Looks like a Wolf"? ah.....in what way does any pitbull look like a wolf? Sounds like dramatics or stupidity.
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Old 06-13-2005, 09:06 AM
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With a dose of yellow journalism thrown in for good measure . . .
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:00 AM
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I noticed that '120lb pit bull' oddity too, but considering the big, big dogs being bred out of the original smaller fighting breeds, I don't think that lets pits off the hook for this dog. While it's obviously inaccurate to call the dog a pit bull and mean a purebred member of one of the breeds commonly known as a pit - AmStaff, APBT, etc. - I think it's fair to assume that the dog wasn't a setter mix - the neighbors may not be dog breeders, but they've probably got at least a passing familiarity with the general appearance of the bulldogs. The reporter should have dug deeper to get a decent idea of what sort of breed or mix it was, instead of a lazy reliance on the simple 'pit bull.'
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:08 AM
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As in most cities, there is dog fighting going on in Chicago. The goal is to have a large, ferocious animal. They don't want a forty of sixty pound animal, they want hundred and over. They're breeding their most aggressive dogs, and they're breeding them to be large.
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Old 06-13-2005, 11:27 AM
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The reporter should have dug deeper to get a decent idea of what sort of breed or mix it was, instead of a lazy reliance on the simple 'pit bull.'

I think it gottn' to the point that saying "Pitbull" is like saying "Hunting Dog" when referring to a Lab or Golden. There is at least 25+ breeds that people lump together as Pitbulls.
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Old 06-13-2005, 12:17 PM
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I think that's legit in everyday usage - similar dogs, similar backgrounds. The reporter, on the other hand, is making a permanent record of a newsworthy event and is supposed to supply all the hard facts he can find, not just parrot the cultural understanding of what a big bad dog is.
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I think that's legit in everyday usage - similar dogs, similar backgrounds. The reporter, on the other hand, is making a permanent record of a newsworthy event and is supposed to supply all the hard facts he can find, not just parrot the cultural understanding of what a big bad dog is.
Not sure I agree with it being a legit use of the word, I think bully breed is a more accurate blanket to use. I wonder how Bullmastiff or English Bulldog owners would feel about it be culturally ok to call their dogs pitbulls...
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:42 PM
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Not sure I agree with it being a legit use of the word, I think bully breed is a more accurate blanket to use. I wonder how Bullmastiff or English Bulldog owners would feel about it be culturally ok to call their dogs pitbulls...
I don't think many people look at the spraddle-legged freakshow that is an English Bulldog and think "pit bull." And I seriously doubt that anyone looks at a Bullmastiff and thinks "big bad dog." All the seriously pretentious McMansion owners near me have one, and I guarantee they aren't making a connection between their ponderous suburban status symbol and the dog popularized in the media as a ghetto status symbol.
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I don't think many people look at the spraddle-legged freakshow that is an English Bulldog and think "pit bull." .
Well I have seen people ask a friend of mine if her Boston Terrier was a Pitbull....lol. You would be suprised just how stupid some people are.

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And I seriously doubt that anyone looks at a Bullmastiff and thinks "big bad dog." All the seriously pretentious McMansion owners near me have one, and I guarantee they aren't making a connection between their ponderous suburban status symbol and the dog popularized in the media as a ghetto status symbol.
I am sorry to say but Bullmastiffs are getting very popular in the "Ghetto". I live in Milwaukee WI and many in the inner city are looking for Real Big dogs and to the untrained eye the Bullmastiff looks like a big pitbull. Pretentious McMansion owners.....ponderous suburban status That is how the Rotties started out
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I am sorry to say but Bullmastiffs are getting very popular in the "Ghetto". I live in Milwaukee WI and many in the inner city are looking for Real Big dogs and to the untrained eye the Bullmastiff looks like a big pitbull. Pretentious McMansion owners.....ponderous suburban status That is how the Rotties started out
Ghettos? Inner cities? Stop it, you're destroying my cherished assumptions about the Midwest. Pity about the Bullmastiffs, I'd hate to see something that big with a bad temperment.
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