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Old 09-30-2007, 12:41 PM
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A couple of things about illness: There are two things; signs and symptoms. Symptoms are things the patient feels but no one else can see. There are signs, things that others can see. Some aspects of illness are a combination...something the dog can feel and you can see.

There are illnesses which present themselves as chronic, meaning the signs and/or symptoms come on slowly, gradually, over various lengths of time. And there is acute, meaning they come on suddenly.

If your puppy or adult dog is showing any acute signs of illness, sudden pain that you can determine, sudden or excessive coughing, discharge, panting, shivering when it's not cold, rash, difficulty breathing (there are many more, but those are examples) it is not something that the Internet should be depended on for answers. It is time to take your dog to the veterinarian.

Even some chronic signs and symptoms can indicate a serious problem. And some may be so mild that you feel that it is not an emergency and might make sense to discuss it here first before deciding to take the dog to the vet.

I see so many threads where people come on here and there is a group of signs or symptoms that are extreme, acute and people are asking what to do? When this happens, many of us scream, "TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE VET NOW!" I think for people who do not seem to have a good sense or gut feeling about certain signs and symptoms and what should be done with the dog, we need to make a bigger list of examples of what would require immediate veterinary care, what would need vet care in the next few days or what might not need vet care at all. Can you all think of some examples of each of those scenarios and list them?

We've had a rash of people coming on here with horrendous signs of illness in their dogs. Why one earth would someone come on the Internet when their dog is almost dying? Is it really possible that someone can be that off track?
I guess we need to make a list. So....see what you can come up with and add as much as you can.

Situations or signs/symptoms of apparent acute illness which need veterinary care ASAP and the Internet/Chazz advice should be avoided, time not wasted.


Situations/examples which are chronic, but serious which need veterinary care ASAP...which perhaps have gone on too long already:

Situations, signs/symptoms, either chronic or acute that do not appear urgent, which warrent some discussion, that aren't likely to create an emergency if discussed here first.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:52 PM
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When it is me, anything out of the ordinary gets my dog a trip to the vet, who by the way just love us, hehehe. Worth it for the p iece of mind. I sure don't want to have somethilng happen to my dog and later I have to look back and say i didn't do everything i could to help/save her.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:59 PM
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I understand that there are cases in which you consider an emergency and some that are not. And I also understand when I need to take my puppy to the veternarian. But you, my fellow dog lover, should understand also that there are circumstances and conditions to which you do not know. For instance, you all did not know all of the details to my situation last night when I came on here asking for help about my puppy. I thought that that's what these websites are for... for advice, and to see if anyone has seen or heard of what I was describing so that maybe I could have gotten an idea as to what is was because the vets that I have been too haven't been of help. But instead of getting help, you all attacked me like I was a bad person for not rushing my puppy back to a different vet. If you were to see 4 different vets in two days and they all told you that there was nothing wrong, but clearly you could see for yourself that there was something terribly wrong, you would turn to other options such as this website looking for help to. So I apologize for causing so much drama on this website. That was not my intent. All I wanted was to see if someone could come up with something other than what I was already told, which was nothing. I am not a stupid person. I have been a breeder for many, many years. And in all of those years, I have never had a problem such as this. All the tests were done, all the medicine was given, xrays, ultrasounds, etc. So I was looking to other options. Again, I apologize for the trouble I have caused. The ideas and suggestions that some of you gave to me after a long ordeal to get them, have actually been very helpful. And that's all I was looking for, was a little help. I love my dogs with all of my heart and I didn't want to lose another one.

Thanks for listening...
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:05 PM
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i haven't had my morning coffee yet, but here are some to get started:

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Situations or signs/symptoms of apparent acute illness which need veterinary care ASAP and the Internet/Chazz advice should be avoided, time not wasted.
bloody diarrhea, bloody vomit, profuse bleeding from an injury.
breathing difficulty
sudden heavy panting
seizures
sudden inability or difficulty with mobility
swelling
high/low temperature

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Situations/examples which are chronic, but serious which need veterinary care ASAP...which perhaps have gone on too long already:
diarrhea
difficulty with mobility
runny nose, eyes

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Situations, signs/symptoms, either chronic or acute that do not appear urgent, which warrent some discussion, that aren't likely to create an emergency if discussed here first.
allergies
unsoundness
anything that is being managed by vet care, that chazzers can offer supportive care. (heart conditions, cancer, kidney disease, etc)
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:09 PM
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I wonder what answers I would have had if I had posted about Chip . ----2006 -- Friday : Chip and my 12 yr old grandson had a wonderful day of play . How they love each other ! Saturday : Ian left at noon . Chip seems depressed and for the 1st time wasn't interested in his dinner . Got him to eat some . Sunday : I don't like the looks in Chips eyes... he wouldn't eat tonight . Monday : off to vet ...Xrays showed huge mass on his liver . Blood tests . Will have ultra sounds Wednesday . Tuesday .: 4th of July ..ate a little prescription food .Not acting sick ...just quiet . Wednesday : Ultra sounds showed massive tumors ---- given only weeks with no quality of life . RIP my dear boy . NEVER take chances , go with your gut feeling !
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