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Old 08-21-2007, 03:33 PM
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okay so these are the four breeds ive come up with in my search. i want to get 2 puppies in the future.. one for me and one for my brother.. we already have a medium size dog (26 pounds) and a cat. i just have these questions about them

which breed would best to get in a pair?
would any of them not get along with my other dog?
or my cat?

i really would prefer a breeder.. i think i will be showing one of the or both the dogs in small shows..

the only major requirment (set by my mom) is that they have to be under 15 pounds.

Does anyone have any questions to help determine the best pick for my family?
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:01 PM
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I only have experience with chihuahuas. They love to bark and its almost impossible to break them of it. They are very fragile because they are so tiny. They are more of a challenge to potty break than some larger breeds I have owned. My sister has a female that refuses to potty outside if the grass is wet, lol. They can be nippy if they are pestered with, so I dont think they are a great choice with children. They dont usually like strange dogs. They are very sensitive to cold weather.

This is just my own experience with the breed.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:20 PM
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I have 3 chihuahuas... and I think they are a GREAT breed. Only one of mine is a barker (Rylie), and when I say, "Rylie, stop!" she stops barking right away. She also only barks when someone is at our door.

If bred well, chis are not fragile. My Rylie weighs under 4lbs, and she is like a little tank. I'd actually be more afraid of my badly bred Madison getting hurt, and he weighs 6.5lbs. They run around, jump on the furniture... I've never been afraid of them 'breaking.'

I honestly believe that the pottytraining issues are a myth. If a 2lb dog pees on the carpet, it's less of a deal than a 40lb dog peeing on the carpet, so some owners aren't as dilligent about pottytraining as they should be. Small dogs are still dogs... just because they're smaller doesn't mean they are slow learners.

My Madison and Chloe actually love children... and they are barely even around them. Rylie takes a little bit to get used to them, but she fell in love with my 12 year old sister this summer while my parents were watching them for a week. Madison actually prefers children if we're in a setting with them. None of mine have ever been nippy- I would NOT tolerate that behavior with any dog... whether they are 5lbs or 50lbs.

My chis get along with other dogs... Madison loooooves big dogs, lol

Chihuahuas do prefer their own breed, so they do well in multiples. As you can see, they are quite addictive (thus why I have 3!).
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:27 PM
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i also think chihuahuas would be great as long as you train them right i dont see any problems
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:50 PM
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I have 3 chihuahuas... and I think they are a GREAT breed. Only one of mine is a barker (Rylie), and when I say, "Rylie, stop!" she stops barking right away. She also only barks when someone is at our door.

If bred well, chis are not fragile. My Rylie weighs under 4lbs, and she is like a little tank. I'd actually be more afraid of my badly bred Madison getting hurt, and he weighs 6.5lbs. They run around, jump on the furniture... I've never been afraid of them 'breaking.'

I honestly believe that the pottytraining issues are a myth. If a 2lb dog pees on the carpet, it's less of a deal than a 40lb dog peeing on the carpet, so some owners aren't as dilligent about pottytraining as they should be. Small dogs are still dogs... just because they're smaller doesn't mean they are slow learners.

My Madison and Chloe actually love children... and they are barely even around them. Rylie takes a little bit to get used to them, but she fell in love with my 12 year old sister this summer while my parents were watching them for a week. Madison actually prefers children if we're in a setting with them. None of mine have ever been nippy- I would NOT tolerate that behavior with any dog... whether they are 5lbs or 50lbs.

My chis get along with other dogs... Madison loooooves big dogs, lol

Chihuahuas do prefer their own breed, so they do well in multiples. As you can see, they are quite addictive (thus why I have 3!).
I do have to say that mine were from bybs. The WORST thing you can do is get one from an irresponsible breeder, because they will have more problems health wise and temperament wise too. BAD BAD IDEA!!

My sisters 7 pound chihuahua broke her leg by jumping off a chair. Her leg bones are very tiny and pretty thin. She needed surgery.

The chis that I have had just dont like other dogs. I tried socializing them at a young age. My sisters chi gets along great with the other dogs in my house because they grew up together.

I have had large breeds and small breeds. I train them all just the same. especially potty training. I do not tolerate it no matter how much of a mess they make. A mess is a mess in my eyes. My 8 month old pit bull is fully potty broke while the 3 year old chihuahua has accidents about once every couple of weeks. Its because she refuses to get her little paws wet in the grass after it rains while my pit bull could care less. When its wet outside she will run and hide as I open the door. I then put her out and give her the potty command about 10 times before she goes. She likes to hide and poop, in the house.

I am not saying chis are bad. I love the breed. They are one of the most affectionate breeds I have ever owned. They are FULL of personality. Love to be with their people. Nothing makes them happier than that.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:07 PM
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If you were a client coming to me for advice, I would tell you to opt for the Maltese or the Yorkie, but I would also tell you not to get them at the same time. Littermates often bond to one another more than to the humans, and that can present problems in training (you would want to go to separate classes). Most reputable breeders won't sell littermates to any but the most experienced owners, and often not even then. Also, it's often easier (in terms of how the dogs get along) to have dogs of opposite gender that are separated by a couple of years or more in age. Have you thought about getting two compatible adult dogs instead of puppies? Small dogs live such a long time, that even if you got them at age 5, you might still have a virtual lifetime together. My Yorkie is 18 1/2. She lives with three larger dogs and still holds her own quite nicely. Well, hope this helped you. Let us know when you finally make your choice. We'll want pictures.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:15 PM
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which breed would best to get in a pair?
none.

Please, please do not get two dogs at one time. Bad idea, and I'm speaking from experience.

Here's just one of my recent posts about the subject:

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So, it was not fun. But it all came together eventually, right?
For the most part, yes. They still have issues that I believe stem mostly from them being siblings and raised together. Their interaction with other dogs is a good example I think.

(Disclaimer before I start. All of this info is based solely on my observations after living with these two heathens for 16 months, and my meanial knowledge of dog behavior. And there is a real possiblity that I am just spewing random crap , let's get started.)

First off buying two puppies was a complete and utter lack of impulse control on my part. I had no clue what I was doing when I brought them home, but I did research about it as soon as I realized that I had made a boo boo and gotten in over my head. I did everything I read short of completely seperating them for the first year of their lives and only allowing a 15 minute play session 2 or 3 times a week), they ate in seperate rooms, went to seperate obedience classes, took seperate walks, slept out of sight from one another, yada, yada!

Despite all that they have the closest bond I have ever seen in two beings. They live and breathe for each other. They rarely acknowledge Mollie or try and get her to play, and even when she tries to join in their playtime she is usually not extremely welcome, they are just so wrapped up in each other and live in the land of IzFro They have learned that they must listen to me and not the other corgi when I tell them to do something (though that was an uphill battle in itself) and they enjoy alone time with me, but I think that I will always take a backseat to their love for each other and that makes me sad because I don't feel that I have the great relationship that most people have with their dogs where the dog thinks that there is nothing better in the whole wide world then their owner.

As far as other dogs go, it's very frustrating and very trying. Izzy can got to a dog park with me and interact with a bunch of other dogs and there is no problems. Frodo on the other hand, is extremely depedent on Izzy. Where most dogs trust their owners to keep them safe and to guide them through life, Frodo looks to Izzy. I can walk with Frodo and we'll see another dog, his hackles go up and he's trying to puff himself up and he gets stressed out of his mind. I can walk Izzy and Frodo together and we'll se another dog and it's like, Hey look at Izzy she's cool calm and collected guess that means everythings good! and he's absolutely fine. I have been working on desensitization with him, but it just seems like it's going so slow and it's 2 steps foreward, one step back.

For things like playdates I always have to take Izzy first and make sure everything is cool and the dogs hit it off. Only then can I even think about bringing Frodo into the picture, because if Izzy says it's good then Frodo will be okay. With both of them there, Frodo is always hanging around Izzy and freaks if she leaves his sight.

Oy, I have more to say, but I am seriously going to pass out sitting in this chair. If you see anything that you think is wrong that I mentioned, please point it out and maybe anther perspective will allow me to help them in some way.


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See, I never have had a first hand experience, but can sort of imagine the difficulties. So, getting it straight from the horse's mouth for others who may be thinking of getting two puppies at once is a good thing. Thanks for sharing PW.
Some people do it and end up with great results and I applaud them!! I don't know how they do it?!?! I think a lot of it depends on the breed as well as the individual dogs, but I will never do it again, that's for darn sure! Then again, I could never imagine not having both of them in my life
If you'd like more info or to talk just let my know either on here or PM me
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:53 PM
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Yeah, I've always heard you should get kittens in pairs, puppies as singles.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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realy depends on WHAT you are looking for in a dog...
personally while i adore the look of yorkies, their personality just doesnt fit me, they are TERRIERS and just too terrier like for me.

Poms are awsome little dogs but are very spitz like, look up husky, mal and other spitzes personalities to get an idea of the pom. they tend to be bold fairly hihg energy and have selective hearing.

Maltese are good little dogs, can be barky and protective, but generally very good.

and chis tend to be stubborn and "selective"

so it realy depends, tell us more about what you want out of the dog, what kind of excersize, grooming time, are you looking for a dog that NEEDS you or one thats a little more independant, ect.

im a chihuhahua lover, but there definatly not a breed for everyone, no matter how amazing they are. they are clannish and like being with other chis...so WARNING, when you get one chi your pack tends to increase rather quickly.

you say your hoping on showing, are you planning on breeding, toy breeds can be difficult to breed, but chihuahuas are notorious for difficulties during labor...

of the breeds you listed, i would say the maltese would be the "middle ground" all around breed...
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