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Old 07-26-2007, 06:22 PM
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I had a person come into the store today with a dog unlike any I'd seen before. He looked like a Golden in body structure, but was deep, dark, true red. Like an irish setter. When I asked her what he was, she told me he was an "american standard retriever". Later I found out she'd rescued him from another family, so didn't have much history on him other than being told what he was.

Is this something people are trying to breed? Red goldens, then call them something else? I was trying to figure out if he was mixed, or just a RED golden, and couldn't figure it out.

Anyone heard of people using this "breed" name before? Or is it just a not widely recognized, yet completley legitimate breed I'd just never heard of before?
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:28 PM
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I've never heard of one, and google isn't giving me anything.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:33 PM
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I've never heard of it and I googled it and still found nothing. I think she was misinformed by the misinformed.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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From what I understand the darker red is more from hunting/working lines, and the light goldens are a more recent development in the breed mainly for the showing.

I could, however, be completely wrong
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PWCorgi is right. Darker goldens are known as American Golden Retrievers and are usually from hunting lines. The Lighter colors are typically English Golden Retrievers and are used for showing etc.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:52 PM
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From what I understand the darker red is more from hunting/working lines, and the light goldens are a more recent development in the breed mainly for the showing.

I could, however, be completely wrong
Agreed...

or she could have just been being funny and calling him that, ya know like I call Chloe a German Shepador Retriever...
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I've also seen a lot of deep reds come out of petstores.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:09 PM
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I've also seen a lot of deep reds come out of petstores.
Could this be because the BYB's are getting their dogs from hunting stock?
Maybe they are generally less rigorous in screening?

I know this is how it is with English Setters, they almost never get show line ES's in rescue, they're all working line.
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No idea,and when I googled all I got was pictures of sinks..
Maybe the previous owners didn't wanna say mutt so they made up a new name.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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My fiancee's parents have 2 red Goldens... they were both from awful BYBs.
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