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Old 05-31-2005, 11:00 AM
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Default Akita/husky bites jogger in stomach

As a change of pace from the pitties are biter/pitties are wuvmuffins fights, here's a totally unrelated breed who bit someone.

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/new...&PAG=461&rfi=9

Although my instinct is always to symapathize with the dog/owner, I have my doubts here. The dog knocked a grown man down and bit him in the stomach? That's pretty predatory behavior for a sweet ol' family pet. And the dog wasn't vaccinated or licensed. The dog warden's concern that the family could easily just move on and the dog's history as a biter ignored seems pretty realistic. I'm really not inclined to ever say 'kill the dog' in situations I'm not directly involved in, because I don't know exactly what happened or who the people are. But I notice the owners said "we're sorry, and this never happened before." They didn't say "this'll never happen again."
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:45 AM
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If the jogger was approaching from behind and closer to night time I dont see a problem.

Jogger should know better, if someone was trying to run behind me and overtake me withing inches of me, my dog would take care of that person real quick. Luckily for stupid joggers my head moves 360 degree's at all times.

In most of my experiences joggers who dont own dogs are complete morons who think they own the sidewalk. They think that people should see them few miles away and let them through at night. Instead of running around the dog, or alerting the owner from longer distance.

Just my point of view, ill over choose dogs side instead of joggers simply from experience,.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:26 PM
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Douglas Wolf, a Marbletown resident and attorney, was jogging on Cooper Street on May 9, something he has done daily for several years, when the unleashed dog ran up to his back, knocked him down and bit him in the side of his stomach.
so the dog ran up behind him and bit him.

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"This was a freak accident," said Belmont. "I feel sorry for Doug; it must be scary to have a dog run out at you, but it isn't as if this dog has ever done it before. This dog is a gentle, 10-year-old family dog."
Just because the dog hasn't done it before does not mean that he can't do it. Dogs have teeth. They are capable of biting, and causing injury. It was not a freak accident, IMO.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:54 PM
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Well, I'm not going to blame the dog, or the jogger...how about this instead....STUPID FREAK'N OWNER!!! He shouldn't be letting this dog run loose in the first place!!!!! Even if it is freindly!!! A dog shouldn't just go up and bite somebody in the stomach for no reason!!! That guy was right, what if it was a child? That kid would probably be dead. That dog needs to be rehomed to somebody who will actually take care of it and be responsible. Stupid owner....
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:44 PM
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Well if not rehomed they should atleast uphold a vicous dog rule on it. Lots of dogs that attack people once, and don't seem to pose a threat will be given specific instructions (leashed at all times, muzzled when out in public). That's just my two cents. Who knows who is at fault, maybe they don't let their dog out unleashed but that night it slipped out the door, or gate, on accident (my stepsons are constantly in and out of the house and the dog slips out every once in awhile).
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:44 AM
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i think there is more to it than that. I just cant see a dog running up BEHIND someone and attacking them, if they ride past on a bike - Bike = fast = running prey
than you can see the dogs point of view.
but it says he was "jogging" not a fast paced race im sure.
I believe the dog was either taunted, entced or perhaps even trained or ordered to do this.

I DONT EVER AGREE WITH PUTTING DOGS DOWN FOR BITING PEOPLE because a person can mass murder 50 people and get jailed for life, while a dog can be teased and taunted untilll it snaps and it gets killed. if we did to people what we do to dogs, we would be beaten and bashed out of every public appearence we ever made.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:35 AM
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This is entirely the dog owners fault, he should be held liable and fines should be given. No dog should be allowed to run at large, and all dogs should be properly confined to their own yard with proper fencing...or better still, no dog should be left unsupervised or unleashed even in their own yard unless the dog has little prey drive or you have proper fencing.

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Jogger should know better, if someone was trying to run behind me and overtake me withing inches of me, my dog would take care of that person real quick. Luckily for stupid joggers my head moves 360 degree's at all times.

In most of my experiences joggers who dont own dogs are complete morons who think they own the sidewalk. They think that people should see them few miles away and let them through at night. Instead of running around the dog, or alerting the owner from longer distance.
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When a person can place blame on the jogger, that is scary. These joggers pay tax dollars, there is no need of them having to concern themselves or be threatened of any dog when they are jogging or enjoying the community. There are many people who enjoy getting out and jogging, biking, walking who don't like or understand dogs. There is no reason these people should have to take a course on dog behavior before they decide to take up these sports.
It's the dog owners responsibility to either train their dog properly, or if your dog has a high predatory drive or guarding behavior then its the dog owners responsibility to find a secluded non jogged spot to walk their dog...not the joggers responsibility.
A dog can go into predatory drift over the slightest movements. A jogger would be a prime object for a dog with a high prey drive to focus on. I have seen some dogs go into predatory eye stalk motor pattern over a frightened child. My Rottweiler uses her predatory drives towards my other dogs. I get to see first hand just how dangerous a dog with the enhanced drives of some breeds can be. My Newf's and Dobie can be walking along minding their own business and my Rottie will just happen to glance at them and go into eye stalk, if my other dogs move she will then chase them or if they stand stock still she will run at them and nip at their legs. I am very careful with my Rottweiler as I know that could be very dangerous around children playing outside. Inside the house it is a completely different story, she loves children...but, children can easily trigger predatory drift even with their shrill play cries and zig zag running patterns etc. You can't just say a dog is an over all good dog cause he will let the children pat him in a controlled environment. When you are dealing with a breed with the full series of motor patterns with some of the drives enhanced, then you have to be extra careful. The scary part is, there are too many people who don't understand or study motor patterns of the predatory drive before they buy a dog who has them.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:52 PM
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Huskies have a very strong prey drive, and this man running would have probaly kicked this drive into place, the owner, was irrisponsible having the dog off lead, anyone who has huskies will advise they should never be off lead.

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Athe -- You hit the nail on the head! I agree completely.
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Most likely the jogger panicked and tried to run faster and thats like begging a dog to attack you if it barked and chased him he pobably panicked!
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