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Old 07-14-2004, 10:40 PM
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I have a Chessie and a Minpin and they are both anti-social. I took the chessie everywhere with me when she was little and we even went to puppy classes at pet smart just for the socialization. They both bark at everyone and the chessie will bite if someone surprises her. I think the chessie learned from our minpin. They both are out with us all the time. The chessie just turned a year old. Any chance she will grow out of it?
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:12 PM
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These are serious socialization problems that it is unlikely they will grow out of. When you say Chessie, are you talking about a Manchester Terrier? Let me know and I'll get back to you when I'm not supposed to be working on a report. (lol)
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Old 07-16-2004, 06:08 AM
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Sorry to hear about your problems. I too have a similar problem with my pit cross. He is about two and a half now and won,t let anyone near me. I was talking to another owner the other day who had an extremely aggressive little terrier anyway the approach she is taking is to throw a hand full of disc,s at the floor by his feet whenever he starts to get naughty. I don,t know if you,ve heard of them they,re plastic round little disc all joined together and when you throw them at the floor they startle the dog sufficiently enough to stop him in his tracks, the trick is to not let the dog know that they are coming from you so that his actions are responsible for the subsequent reaction. Anyway it sounds good in theory so i will certainly be giving it a go because an aggressive dog can be a liablity can,t it. By the way is a chessie a chesapeake?
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:24 PM
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Hi Renee, My Chessie is a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. I have heard that they are of an aggressive nature, but I have also seen so many nice ones. She is friendly once she gets to know you, but still very cautious. She's never been mis-treated, we have never left her with anyone but us. I can't take her to any more training classes because she would start trouble I think.
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:22 PM
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First off, Rosalee, I'd be very wary of using those discs or anything else to startle a large dog. Large dogs, especially breeds like the Pits (or our Filas for that matter) are supposed to go toward danger. It is considered a serious fault if they shy away from any kind of stimulus like that, so please, please, don't try the discs with large dogs! They probably are great for small dogs, but I can't stress enough that they could create a terrible, tragic situation for a large dog - and although the dog wouldn't be at fault, it would be the dog that would be punished.

Okay, Julie, I'd suggest you start working with your Chessie by himself - without the MiniPin. You'll need to work with the MiniPin separately as well, but you will want to concentrate on the Chessie, since he's the big dog and will be the one that gets himself in hot water.

I think it was Brattina who told us about a halter that has the ring on the chest so that when the dog acts inappropriately you can quickly pull him around to face you and firmly give him whatever command he's accustomed to you using. The Halti halter is also supposed to be very good for the same thing.

I'd also recommend checking out the training programs from the Monks of New Skete, either by video or book. I can't remember the exact address of their website, but if you run a search on Monks of New Skete dogs you should come up with it. It may be www.newsketemonks.com, but I'm not sure.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:02 PM
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Thanks Renee. We do have the halti and it does help. She is more controlable and walks with good sense while she is wearing it. She also has a harness, but not the kind you mentioned. I will look into the Monks of New Skete. Once I get a dog, or any pet for that matter, they are mine for life. So I hope we can work this out so everyone is happy.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:34 PM
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Hi Julie H,

I have a 4 year old bichon frise who is anti social to strangers. If it is a routine that she sees you she will be a friend for life, but if she doesn't know you she is very snippy. We have had her since 8 weeks, she has a collapsing trachea, and has had it from early on, plus I had just found out I was unable to have kids and I have to admit that I did not socialize her as great as she should have been. There are many people she knows and loves and has no issues with at all. (she was also hit with a toy truck from a little kid when she was 2-4 months of age, and there was never any other kids around, so she is definately not a kid person.) She said try a socialization class, at the time we signed up my husband was let go from his job, so it really was unable to be done. The vet has mentioned it is a behavior the dog might always have, but no dog is too young or too old for those classes. It might help, but not take it away. I am looking into this. Since then we have added to our family, and we over socialized him. He is super friendly to all, but he still barks at people. The vet mentioned that might go away and it might not, but no one will be able to sneak up on me. Gidget is also a runt, she is actually the size of a maltese and not a bichon, and I think I over nurtured her as a puppy. Sometimes we have found her not being friendly as a good protective measure such as when the man who just walked into the yard and tried to hold her, he was very close to the house and I had no idea who this man was. I felt very proud of her protecting me!


Gidget, my 4 year old, is a great dog...very loving and nuturing and intuitive. She is a sweetheart, it just takes her time to get to know you. We have one friend who ignored her when she came in and Gidget made up to her immediately. She does warm up to people, and it seems to be a little quicker since Dexter entered the picture. She watches him go and get petted and then she will slowly go over and then she warms up to you by bringing her ball or a toy for you to play with.

Has your vet any ideas to at least help a little more than just a socialization class? Keep me posted.

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Old 08-27-2004, 05:19 AM
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I would also suggest visiting these three excellent web sites.

http://www.dog-partnership.co.uk - Angela Stockdale work on Aggression

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/sayhi.html - Suzanne Clothiers great site

and also http://www.canis.no/rugaas - for calming signals

you will find you will be able to make huge changes for the benefit of you and your dog.
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:46 PM
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The first thing I would do, training or not, for the Chesapeake is get her a muzzle and USE IT whenever you take her out. That's not as much for training reasons as it is for safety. If that dog were to do more than a nip at someone and actually hurt them, chances are she would be euthanized and you would have a lawsuit on your hands.

Plus, Chessies are getting a bit of a bad rap. No need to add to it, right?
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Old 08-28-2004, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie H
I have a Chessie and a Minpin and they are both anti-social.
What surprises me here is that both are "anti-social", even after being "socialized".

I'm not sure being surprised should be classified as anti-social. When is he surprised, that is to say, what does it take to "surprise" him? How's his hearing?

If you can't attend an obedience course, I would recommend visiting Dr. P's website http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm for very helpful indexed behavior and training links (including Flying Dog Press).
Good luck!
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