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Old 07-20-2004, 12:08 PM
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What really ticks me off is Owen is better trained and better socialized than any of those little dogs (no offense to small dog owners, I know there are some who value training and socialization as I do but in my neighborhood small dogs this does not hold true) yet because of his size, breed (correct or mistaken) people think he is a threat.
You are sooooo right! I used to take my Bear everywhere with me. He was the perfect gentleman - all 110 pounds of him. I had perfect confidence in him under any circumstance, he was, after all, certified as an animal therapist by the University of Tennessee Knoxville's HABIT board. One of his favorite trips was to Gatlinburg. He just loved the crowds and everyone who stopped to pet him. It was always fun to walk in and out of the shops with him. There was always someone (generally a woman) with a toy breed of some sort, and there was always some snarky remark made about "that big dog." "That Big Dog" was always perfectly mannered and quiet. It was always gratifying when the store owners would tell people that Bear was always welcome in their store; that he was their favorite customer! They only problem I ever had was keeping him from eating too many treats! The people with the outdoor pizza parlor always found him a piece of pizza - his favorite! Not a bad life for a dog rescued from death row, hmmm?
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:22 PM
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Recently I had some woman reprimand her child for coming up to say hi to my Owen, warning him to stay away because he was a "Pitbull" after informing her that Owen was a Boxer I proceeded to tell her how wonderful Pits were and that their reputation as "vicious killers" was really undeserving, and how they make excellent loyal and loving family pets in the right home with owners who are willing to properly train and socialize a large, strong, athletic breed with a ton of energy.
Very slick... how did the lady react? If I said around here I'd get a laugh, a glare w/them saying I'm stupid, or a total shrug off ~ in one ear and out the other, no one cares type of thing, but I do try. Most of the time I'm trying to defend Cocker Spaniels when I walk my Maddie.
Don't you think little dogs get away with murder? If a German Shepherd jumped on strangers to be pet the way my co-wokers poms do there would be a lawsuit, but its just as annoying with the little ones. Personally I think there little nails scratch my legs and hurt worse.
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Old 07-20-2004, 11:10 PM
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It always amazes me the way most big dogs will ignore the small ones when they bite and snarl at their ankles. I don't know why people think it's cute when the little ones behave that way; it's not the sign of a happy, well adjusted dog. When I see a dog acting like that I can't help but feel sorry for such a frustrated, irritated (and, I must confess, irritating), neurotic little creature. Dogs weren't meant to have psychological problems; that's not something inherent to the species, it's something we've thrust upon them by reprehensible breeding practices and ludicrous handling.

Whew, I'm on a tear tonight, aren't I? Probably from spending too much time poring over warranty deeds from the 1850's! Even my dogs are looking askance at these stacks of papers I'm buried behind.
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Old 07-23-2004, 04:02 AM
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Hi everybody. I live in the Toledo, Ohio area, where the local Dog Warden, Tom Skeldon is totally fixated on Pit Bulls, and related breeds. He got his job due to his father and uncle being political big shots in the area, and his brother is warden in Williams county, near the Indiana border.

The law here is totally unreasonable, but it looks like someone has figured out a way to possibly fight it, and maybe declare it unconstitutional. Let's hope. My last dog was a Pit Mix, and happily, lived his entire life with only a few people guessing at his background, so there were no problems with the dog warden and police.

He was probably a Pit/Golden Retreiver, and there may have been some other breed in there too. His sister was grey brindle and white, my dog was Reddish gold and white, with, if you looked really closely, brindle and ticking underneath a lot of hair. He lived 14 and a half years, without ever starting a fight, and has been gone 5 years now.

I have a friend who lives outside our area with a Pit that has slept with his daughter (almost 5 now) pretty much her entire life. She was jumping in and out of the crib without them knowing about it for the first year or so. One night, my friend got up in the middle of the night and couldn't find the dog. He and his wife looked and looked and finally went into the baby's room and there he was, on his back in the crib with the baby, about 11 months old laying up against him. They tried to keep him from going back in there the next night, but both the dog and the baby cried so much, they let him back in. The only "incident" was when the wife's mother showed up at 6am one morning, from the west coast, and ran into the bedroom to see her granddaughter for the first time, and startled both the baby and the dog, who wasn't really pleased about this crazy woman being in the room. Grandma bailed out quick, her idea of a dog was a 7 pound toy poodle, not an 88 pound Pit Bull.

Some people got all hysterical when they heard about the sleeping arrangements, especially Grandma, saying the dog can't be in bed with the baby, etc, he's a Pit and will go nuts and kill her, blah, blah. They ignored them and the dog has slept with her every night, first in the crib (a real feat to get in and out without making any noise, and getting out as soon as the baby cried without getting caught all that time), and now in a regular bed. Yeah, he's a killer all right. The only person who would need to worry about him would be the idiot who tries to kidnap her! He's totally trustworthy with kids, and other dogs too. Cats? No, that's something he will go after..My dogs do that..skunks, possumms, Raccoons, groundhogs, etc, are all fair game in their backyard.
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:39 AM
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Yep, sounds like your friend's got a real killer there, alright! (rofl) It's been my (vicarious) experience that the typical Pit doesn't go overboard even when on guard duty.

I'll never forget the morning the chase men I worked with at a bonding company came in with a guy they'd been looking for for several months. The younger chase man was walking kind of funny, and didn't really want to sit down.

It seems they found their man in a small, single wide mobile home parked out in the woods. The older guy went around back to go in that way, and the younger one was supposed to keep the fugitive from running out the front door. The plan to bang on the front door so the fugitive would try to run out the back door to escape into the woods, and the back door guy would grab him.

That's exactly the way it went down . . . except . . .

There was a Pit tied in the front, which our guy managed to avoid. What he didn't know was that there was another one laying in wait under the front steps. When he started banging on the door, the Pit under the porch jumped up onto the porch and grabbed him by the cheek - yep, you're right, it wasn't the one on the side of his face!

Although it was an impressive bite, the dog hadn't tried to savage him or maul him like so many people accuse Pits of doing. The dog was just doing his job, and did it in a very professional, workmanlike manner, turning loose when the owner - in handcuffs - came around the trailer and told him to turn loose.

We all had a good laugh about it, our guy had a sore butt for a few days, but no stitches were necessary, just a bit of betadine and a nice, soft pillow, and our guys went back to make sure there was someone else living in the trailer taking care of the dogs. Neither one of them wanted anything to happen to the dogs.
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