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Old 06-11-2007, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jess2416 View Post
Half of those are terriers
true. but 90% of the time i don't agree with the mixes petfinder says the dogs are. and most of those terriers seem to be am staffs or american pit bull terriers, which are more of a working breed than a terrier to me.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:07 PM
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putting aside the allergies (I agree with all postings regarding them)..

I highly recommend PWD's..they are great dogs. Also tho you think your boys might be hard on a smaller dog, don't discount a bichon, they aren't that 'small', compared to say a rat terrier/min pin that type of breed.

Bichons probably require a tad more grooming than a PWD (espec if you like the longer coat ) but both breeds would be worthy of consideration in my book.

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Old 06-11-2007, 08:54 PM
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that, but I'm in Washington State, not Florida.

Lots of responses, I hope I don't miss anything. First, you guys are awesome, thank you so much for all the help.

I do plan to get him in to an allergist. We just have to get our Ped to refer us, and he keeps assuring me that I don't need to have him seen until he's 2. I don't know why. He has excema, and gets watery eyes and blotchy skin.

He reacts to my mom's dog only on his face, and it's only if his face touches her. He can pet her with his hands just fine. He also reacts immediately. It doesn't cause him breathing trouble, or sneezing so far. I have terrible allergies, to dogs and cats and mold and pollen and a ton of other things. I was on medication as a child, but I seem to have adjusted to the animal allergies. I'm 25 though, and it's only been recently.

Even if he does have allergies, I think having pets are so important for children. Not for responsibility, because they are too young for that, but for companionship. And I want a dog. I absolutely do not want to jump into getting a dog and then have it not work out. It isn't fair to my kids or to a dog, which is why I am asking so many questions and taking my time. I think I've been looking into this for about a year.

I want to be able to meet a dog before adopting, so I can rub my son's face on the dog and see if he reacts. I feel comfortable doing that, since his reactions seem to be mild. And we plan to call the dr this week and insist that he refer us to an allergist (mostly because his excema isn't getting better and I'm tired of him being uncomfortable).

I would still like to look, and unfortunately it sounds like I'll be pretty limited by breed. And the breeds that will be good for us are pretty pricey.

For those who have suggested PWDs, how did you find yours? I can't even find a breeder around here, and the rescue won't adopt out to people with kids (per their website). Also, considering that I am looking for a certain kind of dog, do I just need to resign myself to the fact that it's going to be expensive?

And the bichon thing, I don't worry about my boys being overly rough, they do great with our cat and he's about 15 lbs, they aren't rough with him or anything. They do like to hug him. But I have heard horror stories about smaller dogs getting back injuries from young children (trying to ride them, maybe, I don't kids have never done that to my parents 80 lbs black lab so I can't imagine they'd do it to a smaller dog either). I have heard that bichons are great with kids.

And Soft Coated Wheaten Terriers, those are hyper and strong willed like other terrier breeds? They look so gentle, like great big teddy bears.

If anyone asked me any questions and I forgot to answer them, I'm sorry. I tried to cover everything.

I really, really appreciate the help. I just want to make the right decision for my family, and also for any potential dog that could come into our family.
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:38 AM
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MM, we found our PWD through a breeder here in Australia. We had to fly her in from QLD - some of the PWD breeders do send theirs overseas, check our
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:16 AM
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I live in an area that is FILLED with Wheatens as they were all the rage a few years back. There is only ONE groomer in my area who will touch a Wheaten with a 10 foot pole and even then most of them have to be sedated to do so. They are SO strong willed, and most I know have turned severely dog aggressive as they got older (which is a trait of ANY terrier). At my new job we've only had two bites since I got there and one was from a Wheaten (the other a Peke-a-poo).

For me when I think kids I automatically think of a bully breed. They have a high pain tolerance so a child being rough with them or falling on them or stepping on them won't phase them. The English Staffordshire Bull Terrier is known as "The Nanny Dog" because of their amazing temperment with children. My friends who have kids have pit bulls, and my Alapaha LOVES kids more than anything!! Just remember with most bully breeds you have a higher possibility of dog aggression. Bully breeds are a lot more responsibility than many other breeds, but I think that the trade offs (the FANTASTIC temperments) are worth it.

I would contact a rescue near you and get an adult who has been in foster care for at least 2 months. This gives the dog some time to settle in and allows their true temperment to come out so you get a more accurate reading on the dog than the rescues that get them in and try to push them back out as soon as possible. There is probably a mutt in your area who is PERFECT and is looking for a home with you.

As far as the allergies go, I'm not sure what to say. My sister has what sounds like similar allergies as your son to our animals. She's always just dealt with it. Some of the allergies went away the longer we had the animals, some never did but she just dealt with the hives.

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Old 06-12-2007, 09:27 AM
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im adding to the vote for a standard poodle, Smart, usually gentle and great with kids, good for alergy sufferes, and big enough to wrestle with the boys without being so big as to take over your home.
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my other suggestion would be an english staffy (or possibly an american staffordshire bull terrier) they can be stubborn in terms of training, and need exsessive socilization with other dogs as they as a breed can be dog agressive but staffies (especially in the uk) are i belive 1 of only 2 breeds recomended IN THEIR STANDARD to be wonderfull with children.

i grew up with a staffy and he was the most amazing dog, but he definatly prefered to eb with the kids than the adults and if anyone ever had tried to hurt any of us, i dread to think what he would have done. they are truly "the nanny dog"

I wonder if other dogs think Cresties are members of some weird religious cult?

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:29 PM
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this rescue deals with poodles and poodle crosses and might be a good resource.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:53 PM
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There are lots of dogs in shelters looking for good homes to.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:16 PM
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The PWD I know might be a bit to high energy for a home with small kids. Thought they make excellent agility dogs if you are looking for a dog to do dogsports with.

Lately I have had clients come with Cavalier King Charles spaniels, what fantastic little dogs. Bigger than a bichon, and have the most incredible temperments, and soooo unbelievably adorable. They have to be the most agreeable and happiest dogs I have ever met.

The ones I have met dog not shed as much as short haired breeds (if you hate shedding never own a Dalmation ) But I agree check allergies first.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:27 PM
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After getting the allergies checked, I would look into poodles, PWD's or Cavs. I've met many wonderful Bichons, but I've also met many that are horrible snappy little creatures with a million health and skin problems. A well behaved poodle is a wonderful dog, as is a PWD which has the advantage of being a little more square and not as tall/willowy as the poodle, which I think makes it a better choice for small children.

Wheaton's...I cannot fathom the fascination with this breed. Just don't get one and your life will be easier. They are insanely high energy as puppies and it lasts well into adult hood. Then when they start to settle down they get crabby and snappy, either with other dogs or with people.
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