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Old 05-24-2007, 02:47 PM
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I have asked someone from RDOWS to come and explain the mysterious list, so maybe people will feel comfortable adding their name to the vigil.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:39 PM
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Here is what I found out with regard to the list:

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The following list contains dog breeds that are either banned from ownership, or restricted so as to make ownership more difficult than owning other breeds, in legislation either passed, proposed, or tabled in venues throughout the United States of America. Some breeds are named specifically, some breeds are included by physical description. All dogs are subject to being named. Dog ownership is under a barrage of legislation that threatens its very existence. Breed specific legislation (BSL) sets a legal precedent that empowers the enacting body to add any or all other breeds of dogs, or domestic species, with no further public notice. Some breeds are included in so-called "pit bull" bans or restrictions. There is no breed of dog that is recognized by any registry as "pit bull" It is an umbrella term that covers twenty-five to thirty actual breeds. The term originated as a means to describe any dog whose owner fought it in the pit. It has expanded into a very broad, and erroneous usage.

Some breeds are named under "wolf-hybrid" bans or restrictions. Common theory is that all domestic dog breeds were developed from a proto-wolf ancestor. Wolf-hybrid bans could in fact encompass all domestic breeds of dogs. Not one of these bans, or restrictions has made our cities, counties or municipalities safer. Responsible Dog Owners of the Western States opposes breed specific legislation. RDOWS encourages the passage of Responsible Dog Owner Legislation that addresses the real problems. For a copy of RDOWS Model Dog Owner Regulations please contact any RDOWS state Director, or RDOWS. The breeds are listed by name exactly as they appear in legislation. Redundancy is due to the wording of codes, and ordinances.
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Interesting. Are you sure it's not a Hoax?? I cannot find it anywhere on the web. Your link doesn't work.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:08 PM
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I kept wondering what link people were talking about. I figured it out now. Here's the full link: http://dogpolitics.typepad.com/my_we...f_banned_.html

And its no hoax. It may seem unreal until you actually have to live with it, I realize. The way the vast majority of these laws are written, they are open to interpretation. So I could say the dogs in your siggy pic are Pit Bull-types because they have rose ears and short hair.
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Breed specific legislation (BSL) sets a legal precedent that empowers the enacting body to add any or all other breeds of dogs, or domestic species, with no further public notice.
This is what owners of other breeds need to be made aware of. Once BSL is passed they can add any breed they want to the list without public notice. It does not stop with the breed specified in the original legislation. It opens the door to the possibility of banning all breeds eventually.

With the ban in Ontario, the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier have never reached the top 5 breeds involved in biting statistics. In fact "Pit Bulls" are number 8 on the list behind Mixed Breeds, German Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels, Rottwielers, Golden Retrievers, Labs and Poodles. (source: Canadian Hospital Injury Reporting and Prevention Program)

If they can ban the #8 dog, what will happen with the breeds numbered from 1-7? Will they be next?
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This is what owners of other breeds need to be made aware of. Once BSL is passed they can add any breed they want to the list without public notice.
Yo. What you said.
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WHAT? A Labrador??? I have two!!! Gosh!! So is this in the United States, or is it somewhere else? Gosh, they might as well ban cats too, they are more offenders of biting, and scratching than dogs! Maybe..
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:39 PM
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First of all I cannot believe the amount of bickering about whether there is sources for this list or not. Does it really matter? NO! If people actually took the time to check it out for themselves you would find out it is true.

I also find it a bit frusterating that people are saying things like "oh, you've got to be kidding me, not this breed or that breed." YES this breed or that breed.

This is just proof that no one persons breed is exempt from banning. If more people would realize this maybe there wouldn't be this epidemic of breed ban laws being past. More people would stand up to fight for every breed instead of sitting back and watching someone elses breed being banned and doing nothing, because it doesn't involve them. Guess what....breed bans involve dogs as a whole. It is discrimination, racism, whatever you want to call it. Pointing a finger at something because of what it looks like or the actions of a few is exactly that.

Kudos to you bahamutt for posting this.

ETA: We also have to look at banning from this standpoint also:

Banning is not only discrimination against a certain breed of dog but it is discrimination against pet owners.

How is this right that governments can tell YOU what type of dog you are allowed to own. They also make it sound as if you a bad person for owning these breeds. It is the same as if governemts were to tell you that you weren't allowed to have children with red hair or green eyes, or that were going to be larger than 6 feet tall. Cause you know "all people with red hair have nasty tempers" and people that are "larger can cause more damage"
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First of all I cannot believe the amount of bickering about whether there is sources for this list or not. Does it really matter?
To those bitching & complaing it matters because obviously in their minds our dogs deserve to be on that list yet their precious pooches could never be so bad & vicious to make the list themselves.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:02 AM
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Well, yeah that is the way it is coming across to me at least. Our breeds are on there fine, but the minute their dog gets put on a list they can't believe it and say "oh, no not this breed".

It is kind of funny that people will sit and say "we are against BSL, blah blah blah" then they go on with the rest of their day not giving it a second thought. When it comes to their dogs though they don't want to believe and are outraged when they find out it is true.

Im not saying that everyone is like this but it just seems that a lot of people are like this.

Again. Think of this as a violation against people....ALL PEOPLE, to not have the right to choose the dog they want as a pet. Think about all the children that have had their best friends ripped from their arms by ignorant law makers, to never be seen again. Think about all the lab crosses, etc that have been euthanized due to BSL. Maybe you will have an easier time deciding whether this is a battle you would like to help fight.

I am kind of upset actually about these people saying this is a hoax etc, and that are just blowing it off as nothing more. Right now, everyday, I fight to save bullys. Tomorrow I would not hesitate to help save YOUR breeds either. It is actually unbelievable that it seems to be one sided unfortunately. Even when other breeds are involved there is a "no, this can't be happening" attitude.

I mean, in Italy the even banned the Welsh Corgi, which is the Queens favorite dog!
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