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Old 05-23-2007, 08:42 PM
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Last night I did a quick search and can't find WHERE the Alapaha is restricted, but I did find other sources with a similar list and they said that Alapahas are listed because they are over 100 pounds. Which is funny since the breed standard says that females should be 55-75 and males 70-90. Can they be over 100 pounds? I guess so. So far I've only personally known of one over 90 pounds, so to say that they are a generally ginormous breed is rediculous!!

Granted, the whole list is rediculous but that's why we fight BSL isn't it?
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Pug? Are they freaking kidding?
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:08 PM
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Whether the list is 100% accurate or not, would you let that stop you from fighting something that is fundamentally wrong? Guys, this is not something I feel like arguing. I guess its naive of me to hope that everybody could just get behind something, whether all the facts for the public presentation were properly sourced or not. Add your name, or don't add your name. It makes precious little difference to me. I will keep doing as I always do, with or without the support of others.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:16 PM
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Here is a crosspost of something we talked about on the Dogo board years ago:

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This list is courtesy of a gal in LJ's "Breedists_No" community. Copied as posted there.

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1. American Pit Bull Terrier “Pit Bull”
2. American Staffordshire Terrier “Pit Bull”
3. Staffordshire Bull Terrier “Pit Bull”

( Please note: The title “Pit Bull” also includes any mixed breed that appears to have predominately “Pit Bull” in it and *all* variations of Bull Dog are listed “Pit Bull” so they are banned by default even if not specifically listed by name. )

4. Bull Terrier (Monticello, Centerville, Alburnett & Hiawatha Iowa)(Grandview MO) (NLittle Rock, AR) (KY & WA)
(Please note also that *many* states list Bull Terriers as “Pit Bulls” along with the three listed above so they are banned in other places not listed as well)

5. Akita (Ulyssas, KS)

6. Alaskan Malamutes (Fairfield, IA)

7. American Bull Dog (North Little Rock, AR) (Aurora CO.)(Akron OH)

8. Belgian Malanois (Fairfield, IA)

9. Boerboels (Fairfield, IA)

10. Cane Corso (Aurora CO)

11. Chow Chow (Travelers Rest, SC), (Newport, RI) (Lynnville, TN)

12. Doberman Pincher (Fairfield, IA) (Sisston, SD), (Westfield, IL), (Travelers Rest, SC) (Lynnville, TN) (Buffalo Center, IA)

13. Dogo Argentino (Aurora CO)
( Please note also that *many* states list Dogo’s as “Pit Bulls” along with the three listed above so they are banned in other places not listed as well)

14. English Mastiffs, (Yale, IA)

15. Fila Brasileiro (also known as the Fila, Brazilian Mastiff) (Aurora CO)

16. German Shepard (Fairfield, IA) (Lynnville, TN)

17. Great Danes (Fairfield, IA)

18. Irish Wolf Hounds (Fairfield, IA)

19. Mastiffs (Fairfield, IA)

20. Malamutes (Fairfield, IA)

21. Presa Mallorquin (also known as the Ca De Bou) (Aurora, CO)
22. Presa Canario (Lanett, AL) (Aurora CO)
( Please note also that *many* states list Presa’s as “Pit Bulls” along with the three listed above so they are banned in other places not listed as well)

23. Rottweiler (North Little Rock AR) (Buffalo Grove, ILL) (Fairfield, Conrad, Lake Mills & Lockridge IA) (Walkerton, IN) (Inman, KS) (Carl Junction & Salisbury MO) (Binghamton, NY) (Velva, ND)(Pawtuckett, RI) (Travelers Rest, SC)(Lynnville, TN)(Smithville, UT)(Neah Bay, WA) (Buffalo Center, IA)

24. Scottish Deerhounds (Fairfield, IA)

25. Shar Pei's (Smithfield, UT)

26. Siberian Huskies (Fairfield, IA)

27. Tosa Inu (Aurora CO)

In addition to the breeds listed specifically (above, where noted) in Fairfield, Iowa, if your dog is over 100 pounds it is considered a restricted breed. Below I listed breeds that are commonly over 100 pounds based on UKC and AKC standards, that are not already previously listed above, that are banned in that city by default because of size:

1. Akbash
2. Anatolian Shepherd
3. Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog
( Please note also that *many* states list ANY Bull type as “Pit Bulls” along with the three listed above so they are banned in other places not listed as well)
4. Borzoi
5. Bull Masiff
6. Dogue De Bordeauxs
7. Estrela Mountain Dog
8. Great Pyrenees
9. Italian Mastiff
10. Komondor
11. Kangal Dog
12. Kuvaz
13. Leonberger
14. Neopolitian Mastiff
15. New Foundland
16. Otterhound
17. St. Bernard
18. Spanish Mastiff

As well as ANY other non-recognized breed over 100 pounds and ANY mix breed over 100 Pounds.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:18 PM
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Here's a list of what they regulate in Italy. Its not properly sourced because I don't remember where I found it. But a lot of it was in Italian and I had to translate the breeds so that they made sense to us Americans.

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I couldn't find the 56 breed list, though I'm sure it'll come across the mailing list I'm on again sometime. But I did find the list of restricted breeds from Italy, which is pretty interesting. The English names for most of them were provided, but some I don't understand. It seems like they went along and just banned whole kennel club groups. [bracketed comments mine]

Belgian shepherd (all 4 varieties)
Schipperke
German Sheperd Dog
Majorca Shepherd Dog
Catalan shepherd
Beauceron
"Dog from Shepherd of Livelinesses"
Berger Picard
Long-haired Pyrenean Sheepdog
Pyrenean Sheepdog-smooth faced,
Bearded Collie
Border Collie
Rough Collie
Smooth Collie
Old English Sheepdog
Shetland Sheepdog
Welsh Corgi Cardigan
Welsh Corgi Pembroke
Bergamasco Sheperd Dog
Maremma Sheepdog
Komondor
Kuvasz
Mudi
Pumi
Dutch shepherd
Saarlooswolfhond
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Tatra Sheperd Dog
Portuguese Sheepdog
Croatian shepherd
Slovensky Cuvac
Ovtcharka - South Russian Sheperd Dog
Czekoslovakian Wolfdog
Australian shepherd
"White shepherd Swiss"
Australian Cattle Dog
Bouvier des Flandres
Bouvier des Ardennes [a breed listed as endagered or extinct in one of my dog books]
"C***227;o Spins S***227;o says Miguel"
Dobermann Pinscher
German Pinscher
Miniature Pinscher
Affenpinscher
Austrian short-haired Pinscher
Giant Schnauzer
Standard Schnauzer
Miniature Schnauzer
Dutch Smoushond
Black Russian Terrier
Argentinian Dogo
Fila Brasileiro
Shar Pei
Danish Broholmer
Boxer
Alano [Great Dane]
Rottweiler
Ca De Bou
Dogue de Bordeaux
English Bulldog
Bullmastiff
Mastiff
Neapolitan mastiff
Tosa
"Dog Run Italian (THE)"
Anatolian Sheperd Dog,
Newfoundland
Hovawart
Leonberger
Landseer
Spanish mastiff
Pyrenean Mastiff
Pyrenean Mountain Dog
Sarplaninac
Atlas Sheperd Dog
Perro pastor of the Atlas says)
Estrela Mountain Dog
"C***227;o says I Castrate Laboreiro"
"Rafeiro of Alentejo"
Saint Bernard
Karst Sheperd Dog
Caucasian Sheperd Dog,
Central Asia Sheperd Dog
Tibetan mastiff
Dogo Canario
Appenzeller Sennenuhund
Bernese Mountain Dog
Entlebuch Cattledog
Greater Swiss Mountain Dog
Large Japanese Dog [probably Akita]
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:21 PM
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LMAO

Tosca- I didn't even notice the spelling.. I just glanced down the list..

NO that would be the INCORRECT way of Spelling "Tervuren"..

so I guess Riots breed ISN"T on the list after all.. yay! hehe

Another way of spelling it would be the old way "Tervueren" (correct spelling of the town in Belgium)
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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You know, the point isn't WHICH breeds are restricted/banned WHERE, but that ANY breeds are banned ANYWHERE.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:50 AM
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I'm only one person, but I wanted to say that I've only been bitten by two dogs my whole life, it bled and I probably should've gone to the dr and got a couple of stitches both times. The first one was a Golden, she was very human aggressive, she climbed the fence she was in and latched onto my leg (I was walking Maddie at the time)
(the other dog it was kinda my fault because I was breaking up a dog fight the way your NOT supposed to. . .)

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Whether the list is 100% accurate or not, would you let that stop you from fighting something that is fundamentally wrong? Guys, this is not something I feel like arguing. I guess its naive of me to hope that everybody could just get behind something, whether all the facts for the public presentation were properly sourced or not. Add your name, or don't add your name. It makes precious little difference to me. I will keep doing as I always do, with or without the support of others.
Because I am uneducated on the subject ; What can we do ?

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You know, the point isn't WHICH breeds are restricted/banned WHERE, but that ANY breeds are banned ANYWHERE.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:54 PM
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Probably the most direct thing is to get ahold of your local councilmen, state representatives, etc., and ask them not to support BSL. Present thought-out arguments about why it is ineffective, and remember to be polite. Get on a BSL mailing list, and when you hear about someplace wanting to pass BSL, email, call, fax, whatever you can do. If you can attend town meetings and such where BSL is proposed, lend your voice against it. Also get involved with your local dog clubs, as sometimes they can be instrumental in fighting BSL. (I say sometimes because some clubs just don't care since it doesn't directly affect them. Other clubs wont move their shows out of a BSL area because of cost or other reasons.)
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:59 PM
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Hysteria doesn't win a war.

Calm, methodical planning and KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE FIGHTING does.

Granted a mysterious list highlights a cause, but it doesn't help win the battle.
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