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Old 09-20-2008, 12:08 AM
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Ha!

Oi vey, some people don't get it.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:11 AM
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That isn't what supporting BSL is about. Did you know that there are places where BSL is passed and "dangerous dogs" are restricted with things like sturdy fences, and registration requirements, but that you can remove your dog of ANY breed from the dangerous dog label by passing the CGC test?

Note: A dog shall NOT be declared dangerous if the owner has enrolled in and completed the American Kennel Club’s Canine Good Citizen® (CGC) Program, or a comparable course or program addressing dog ownership responsibilities."

People should be fighting for proper BSL, not making up lies about what BSL is.
So, I am assuming YOU are for BSL.

What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.

I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.

Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:13 AM
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Reggin...same troll...different day.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:13 AM
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Yep same one..

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Old 09-20-2008, 12:15 AM
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Reggin...same troll...different day.
The SAME one.

You know, kela must have copied and pasted, because it does not sound like her. The words are actually put together well with pretty good grammar. Definitely not her own words.

PATHETIC.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:17 AM
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So, I am assuming YOU are for BSL.

What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.

I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.

Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
In all fairness, Reggin, GSD's and ACD's ARE a targeted breed as well. But I do agree why not put restrictions on all breeds. Or better yet why dont they simply ENFORCE the current laws.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:18 AM
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Probably just a different personality Reggin.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
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I still dont understand how DOG fighting has anything to do with BSL. They were bred to fight DOGS not humans, D.O.G (you know the creatures that stand of four legs, vary in size and have been alongside man for thousands of years), is it that hard to understand ...
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:02 AM
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In all fairness, Reggin, GSD's and ACD's ARE a targeted breed as well. But I do agree why not put restrictions on all breeds. Or better yet why dont they simply ENFORCE the current laws.
I do realize that very much so. My point is not the BREED. My point is that any breed can have a tendency to be DA. Since when does a dog HAVE to like another dog. PLEASE! Dogs are individuals.

I was just listing my personal experiences. And those are the particular dogs that have come after us. I will go on to say that a pittie snapped at us once while we were at a dog park (long time ago, he was 10 weeks old). To that list you can add a toy poodle, chihuahua, retriever of some sort, yet another lab, and mutts.

But why are some dogs targetted by BSL but others are not? Wait, I know, its because other breeds are perfect to the media and publics eyes. They would never bite or dislike another dog.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:46 AM
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You know things have reach a level of insanity when you can post 300 examples of well-trained, stable, good examples of any given breed and someone will come back with saying those dogs are abberitions and the one anomoly that ends up in the news is "how all those dogs are."

And because it seems that still more people can't grasp what BSL actually means, do have any idea how hard it is to get a CGC cert. when the city you live in will not permit your dog to be inside the city limits? Denver and Ontario both have "kill on sight" laws in place right now. Or when training clubs have bought into, or been forced into compliance, with those same laws and are unable to allow the dogs to go to the classes and tests? You might be able to get a "vicious dog" label withdrawn by passing a CGC, but you cannot lift a breed ban. The "VD" label applies to that specific animal. Breed bans affect every single member of that breed. I feel like a broken record saying this but it's apparently not sinking in or at least understood.

I would be more in favor of "vicious dog" laws, as they at least provide A) an avenue to have that label withdrawn and B) allows for the actually dangerous animals to be the ones dealt with, instead of lumping those under the same label and restrictions with dogs who have never anything worse than chew up a shoe.

We already have perfectly good laws regarding "menace" dogs. We don't need to be wasting taxpayer's money going after innocent animals. How many man hours and thousands of dollars of resources have been dedicated to this ridiculous BSL trend? How much better off do you think communities as a whole would be if those same resources were used to actually do the job they were intended for in the first place?
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