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Old 05-14-2007, 10:38 PM
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If his fur is falling out from both the chicken and beef, and he is scratching his fur out, I would switch the protein source.

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Old 05-14-2007, 10:40 PM
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thank you.
i am going back to a kibble.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:44 PM
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Kibble wise, have you looked into California Natural (Lamb & Rice, or Herring)? It's made for dogs with allergies, and mine did well on it. Aside from that, I'm not sure what to suggest. I wish I could help, though.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:49 PM
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Ditto. What about California Natural or Timberwolf Organics?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:57 PM
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thanks herschel!!
i like the sound of that California natural with herring. is there anything bad with feeding a dog fish based foods? any mercury concerns?
theres a place near me that sells california naturals, so maybe they have it!
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:58 PM
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Don't be worried about the mercury. If it were tuna based then it would be another story.

If they don't have it they should be able to special order it for you at no extra charge.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:04 PM
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that would be great.

can i be cooking, or giving him raw fish until i get that dog food (it will actually be a week or so)
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:23 AM
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10 oz of muscle meat
2 oz organ meat
3 oz grain
How much does your dog weigh? How active? You can't always go by what a chart says, you have to take into consideration your dogs activity level and metabolism. Gunnar is 85lbs. 2-3% of his weight is 2-2.5lbs of food. If I fed him that he'd waste away. I know, he was there for a while- too much ribs and hip bones. I had to bump him up to 3lbs of food per day which is more like 3.5%, and he put the weight back in in a couple weeks.

No bones? How is your dog getting any calcium without bones?

Thats as much organ meat as my 85lb and 70lb dogs get. Too much in my opinion. Bruzer, who is about 25lbs, gets maybe 1 oz and not every day, more like 3 times a week.

How about fish? That can be a good source to rotate in. At least supplement with some fish oil if nothing else.

Remember that most dogs are going to react to a new food source, so what happened with pork may be OK, and if you stuck with it it'd work out in a couple days. I try not to feed too much of the fatty parts though. Have you fed eggs at all?

I'm not sure how Shelties shed, but Gunnar will blow out his coat 2 times a year, where he sheds real heavy for a period of time. After that he sheds some but not anywhere close to what I've seen from some of the other "German Shedders" at OB class, who when you pet them the hair is flying off. So maybe he's going thru a shedding period right now.

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the few shelties ive met shed much like you said, literally the hair seems to come out in clumps this time of year so it COULD jsut be shedding. shelties are also a little higher energy dogs so id be giving more in terms of feeding amount suggested.

also when starting raw the first couple weeks many dogs "Detox".

if your definatly stuck on going back to kibble, calafornia natural formulars are good for allergies.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:41 AM
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Ruckus is 32lbs. and is lazy!!

He gets his calcium from two raw meaty bones a week, and daily bone meal as a supplement. just like my book says. he is also suppleimented with brewers yeast, vit c, vit e, fish oil, wheat bran, wheat germ, and kelp. all of these the book said i NEEDED. however i dont think so. i use them anyway

no i am not stuck on going back to kibble, i am just extremly confused right now.
pork made him sick, he is allergic to chicken, i hope to god he isnt allergic to beef. that leaves me nothing but fish and whatever i can get a hunter to bring me.
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