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Old 05-24-2007, 06:55 PM
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Does anybody have ANY sources on these dogs? The more I read about them, the more I think they may be a great fit for our family. We have been wanting a sighthound, but want one that can go hiking with us. The local greyhound rescue has informed us that a grey would much rather get it's beauty sleep than go hiking in the hills, but we still love the laid back-ness around the house attitude of many sighthounds.

I have looked high and low for weeks now, and not one whiff of a staghound breeder or puppies. I found some borzoi deerhound mix puppies on petfinder, which is an extremely close match to what we are looking for but they are in Georgia and the rescue will not ship them. Unfortunately we just can't afford a road trip to Georgia.

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Old 05-24-2007, 07:09 PM
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http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/staghound.htm

I found that, it's from dogbreedinfo.com so it may not be very reliable. That says that they are not a recognized breed so that is why you probably don't see many breeders. They are used as workers only.

The reason the mix does not show up in shelters is probably because the people at the shelter do not know of the breed so they label it something else, either that or they are so rare that very few end up in shelters.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I found that too. Hmm...I guess we should add American staghound to the thread about dogs that still are bred strictly for work.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:42 PM
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These seem, if not rare, highly guarded, it would probably be best to start poking around the live coursing circles... if you can find them.

Keep checking petfinder, there are normally quite a few interesting mixes that roughly equate to the "Lurchers" of England. Herding dog crosses with greyhounds or whippets.
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:32 PM
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This doesn't seem like the type of dog that would be good for off-leash hikes due to its high predator-chasing drive...
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:43 PM
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It sounds like these are a startlingly bad choice to be a family pet. I'm sure they're lovely and all, but that high prey drive probably means no walkies with the kids for fear the dog will rip the leash out of Jr's hand and take off after another animal, ending in either a horrible attack or a traffic accident.
Why not go with one of the AKC breeds, which are further from their origins and so have less drive?
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:49 PM
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No.. off leash would still be a bad idea with one of these, but many people do still hike with the dog on leash. No one mentioned a child holding the leash either... Additionally, I would not bet on many AKC sighthounds having less of a chasing drive. It may be less pronounced, but cars are the leading killers of almost all of them, after chasing a cat into the street.

My main problem with the Greyhound, and it seems like the poster's too, is that they seem to HATE the rain, mud or snow. The rougher coated staghounds are more weather resistant than those.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:34 PM
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I would not walk a dog off leash under any circumstances (especially around here!!) and I would never let a child walk a dog, unless it was a toy breed and I was there to make sure they didn't get attacked by some random stray.

When we first began looking into sighthounds, it was understood from the start that they can never be walked off leash. In fact, all greyhound adoption groups make you sign a contract stating that you will never let the grey off leash. That's just a fact of life with that group of dogs. However, we do live with 1/4 a mile of three elementary school with fenced playgrounds which would make the perfect romping place for any sighthound.

As for denying a child the joy of walking their dog, I am much more concerned for the lives and safety of my children and pets. Anyway, I could still let them walk the dog, just make sure I have a second leash clipped to the collar in case it bolts.

Around here we have javalina, coyotes, foxes, cougar, jaguar, all kinds of creatures that like to eat/fight dogs. We also have rattlesnakes, who don't appreciate having someone stick a nose in their face. We also have gila monsters, coral snakes, and hallucinogenic toads that are fatal to dogs that lick them. We also have cacti with wicked 3"+ spines, that would really tear a dog up it if ran through them chasing a bunny or something. No, I would never under any circumstances let ANY dog go hiking with me off leash.

The other appeal of staghounds, and many sighthounds in general is they have a very low incidence of genetic diseases (unlike many other AKC dogs). Their main problems are suceptibility to bloat, and a sensitivity to chemicals and anesthesia, and short lifespan . Most of which aren't really problems if you're mindful of them and have a vet experienced with those kinds of dogs.

On the subject of getting a leash ripped out of your hands, some bored physicists on a greyhound list calculated that if a 55 lb greyhound takes off a a full run on a leash, within 3 seconds (3 seconds = 45 mph) you are having 280 lbs of pull per square inch being exerted on your arm. Pretty awesome huh?
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From what I gather a Staghound is a Greyhound/Deerhound mix . . . though many lines of American Staghounds have been bred together for a few generations. They're a relatively new breed, meant for hunting. Some people use them for coyote hunting (as they do Longdogs).

As far as Greyhounds go: my own personal Grey gets tired after a 30 minute walk. But my friend has a Greyhound who she runs with for at least 2 miles a day and that dog STILL has energy to burn!! Frankly I firmly believe that there is a Greyhound out there for EVERYONE you just need to look for it. If you PM me your area I can ask around for other Greyhound Rescues who may be able to help you out!!
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:16 PM
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Are Irish wolfhounds and Deerhounds out of the question? I don't know much about staghounds, but from what I got out of the picture on dogbreedinfo (they look gorgeous by the way) is that the wolfhounds and deerhounds may be a bit larger and coarser in coat.

What was it that you were originaly looking for in a dog? The sighounds are a wonderfull group of dogs, but there may be a breed out there other than the staghound that is more suitable for you.
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