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Old 05-01-2007, 10:10 AM
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I wonder how much it costs . I'd love to know what Ollie's Mom or Dad was !
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:51 PM
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I seriously doubt the accuracy of this test. I am genetics major. A couple of years ago we could not even distinguish between wolf DNA and domestic dog DNA, much less between individual dog breeds. That was actually a big argument against outlawing wolf hybrids in some areas because there was NO way scientifically possible, either through DNA testing or by looking at a dog, to prove if a dog had any recent infusions of wolf blood or was a husky type of mix.

In order for us to be able to distinguish between different breeds, someone would have needed to find a distinct marker on the DNA of EACH individual breed. Because there are a lot of modern breeds (created in the last 200 years) that share common ancestry, or are composed of breeds still in existence, those breeds would share the same markers and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.

A good example of this would be ACDs, made of dingo, collie, dalmation, etc.

Or Dobermans, made of (possibly) weimaraners, rottweilers, german pinschers, etc. There seems to be some debate about what exactly went into them, but all the ingredients bandied about are still breeds in existence today so they would share markers with those breeds, or possibly have lost markers in the mixing.

This is assuming that they managed to identify markers for all the foundation breeds in the first place.

I agree with everyone about the BSL. It is scary. Politicians are not scientists, and they are easily swayed by pseudo-scientific tests and studies. It's scary, and no one has any business knowing what my dog is, and telling me I can't keep her based on what her supposed ancestry is.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:28 PM
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Hmmm...

Interesting feelings everyone has on the issue. I never thought of the BSL side of it. I personally still think it's neat. Think about how many posts a day are on forums titled something like "Guess my dog's breed" etc. I guess I just look at this glass half full instead of empty.

I am also thankful that I come from the #1 dog friendly city is the USA with no BSL...
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:48 PM
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There has been some more recent work on dog origins, and it seems that as a side product, they were able to identify dog breeds, most of the time.

Oddly, it was the beagle which had the worst record of identification.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:04 AM
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What do you mean new ?? I had Whiskey tested over 3 years ago. It is very expensive. I paid $ 1800.00 for it. I was not 100***37; sure as a pup he was all ACD.
They have been offering this dna testing for years here.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:11 AM
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What do you mean new ?? I had Whiskey tested over 3 years ago. It is very expensive. I paid $ 1800.00 for it. I was not 100% sure as a pup he was all ACD.
They have been offering this dna testing for years here.
Well, that's the first I have heard of it and the first my vet friend who told me about it had heard of it. Maybe this test is different, and hopefully a lot less expensive.

Were your ACD's sire and dam DNA'd???
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:08 AM
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Well, that's the first I have heard of it and the first my vet friend who told me about it had heard of it. Maybe this test is different, and hopefully a lot less expensive.

Were your ACD's sire and dam DNA'd???
No he was a rescue but I wanted to know for sure if he was all ACD. Banfield ( yuck) pet hospital told me where to go have it done. It is costly and being that Whiskey was taller then normal ACds I just wanted to know. The answer is that he is pure bred although I would never have considered breeding him because he has too many flaws to even had thought about it . I don't want to breed any dogs I wanted to know for sure because it gives me a clue as to their genetic defects if they were to come up.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:53 AM
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I read about this in a past issue of Dog Fancy magazine a while back. There are a couple of companies that do this and I choose MetaMorphix's Canine Heritage Breed Test. I sent the DNA sample about a month ago and I'm still waiting for results. (It's supposed to take about 6 weeks.) The cost is $65. For that price I thought it would be interesting to see the results. They have a short list of breeds, but I believe my dog's heritage is contained in the list. I also heard that terrier mixes will be nearly impossible to discern because of the relatedness of the different terrier breeds. (or something like that).
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:59 AM
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No real need to put my money into it.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:01 AM
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Hmm.. Novelty value only surely?

I just think - what's the point in paying that much money to satisfy your curiosity - seems like a waste of money to me.

I am lucky, I know what Bodhi is (all 5 breeds!), but if I didn't I wouldn't pay a grand to find out....!!!!!! ***163;20 maybe LOL
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