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Old 04-25-2007, 01:08 PM
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I'm usually more of a large dog person, but I'm despairing of finding an apartment with a large dog. (Currently I'm dogless.) So I'm considering small dogs. Maybe there's one out there that would suit me?

Here's what I'm looking for:

- an easily trainable breed
- preferably easy potty training too
- low prey drive
- not a lot of grooming required. (Some brushing is okay, but nothing extensive like a shih tzu.)
- not barky
- a breed that can handle being alone during the work day as an adult. (I would probably adopt an adult.)
- does okay with 30 minutes - an hour of exercise per day
- a breed with minimal health problems, preferably. (I know responsible breeders test for problems, but . . . still. Especially after those threads about how most breeders of toy dogs don't health test for luxating patella. Scary!)
- under 25 lbs

For various reasons, I'm not interested in the following: terriers of any type, daschunds, beagles, shelties, chihuahuas, poms.

Any thoughts?
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:26 PM
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I thought Cavalier King Charles Spaniels fit all your requirements but one quite well . . . They do have their fair share of health problems, especially BYB Cavs. Heart problems are a biggie in the breed, as are eye problems. Luxating patellas seem common in all small breeds but I don't know if Cavs have issues with that.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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a cav king charles would work great.
a chinese crested would fit very well, they are officially a terrier but arnt as "intense" as most the terriers, if you dont like the hairless look look into the powder puff veriety.
a whippet or italian gryhound might work too...

or if your adopting an adult any ole mutt from the shelter in your weight range that attatches itself to your heart. (and i mean any ole mutt in an enderaing way )
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:12 PM
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I didn't think of the IG Foxy, that's a good idea. Only thing I've heard about them is that they're very difficult to housetrain. Not sure how much truth that holds.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:23 PM
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ive heard they can be, but i feel its like every other small/toy breed, if the dog has an accident, you wernt watching close enough.
chis are supposed to be the worste for housebreaking, yet both mine were 100***37; reliable within 1 week of persistence.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:07 PM
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I love Cavalier King Charles Spaniels! I've heard they get anxious when left alone, though? They'd be alone during the work day--well, except for the cats.

I'm a little reluctant to get a small dog from the local shelter . . . My very first dog was a pom mix who abruptly died after I had her a month. I mean, I know you shouldn't judge from one instance, but it was hard. She was only a year old, too. (My second dog from the same shelter was a large dog who lived fourteen years . . . Go figure, huh?) Also, there usually aren't very many small dogs there, they tend to get rehomed quickly.

I'm a big fan of Italian Greyhounds and whippets (and greyhounds), buuut . . . I don't know, a sighthound with three cats zipping around . . . :/ I know some sighthounds are trained to get along GREAT with their feline friends, but . . . I think it would be something I'd constantly worry about. It seems easier to me just to pick a breed without that instinct (although I realize you have to be careful selecting the individual dog, too.)

I don't know much about Chinese Crested, I'll do some research on them.
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I agree on Cavs as an option. Chinese Cresteds could also work and I simply adore them. Italian Greyhounds are also amazing little dogs.

Wow, I'm no help lol.
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You could always consider a Clumber Spaniel. Small enough to be an apartment dog but not tiny. AND I have seen purebred adults in rescues. I am planning on that being my next breed once I am moved and settled. They are very smart and well behaved. And are pretty low key and inactive indoors not in need of too much exercise as an adult. They make good apartment dogs.

They do however have your typical Spaniel health problems. Cateracts, hyp dysplasia, some have sensitive skin, and their diet needs to be watched carefully. They also can have Juvenile Lameness but if you get an adult you would probley be okay. OH! they are also known for swallowing objects they shouldn't so they are a breed not to leave little things around. But not all are like that.

Height- 16-20 inches
Weight- 55-88lbs

Of course it varies per dog.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/clumberspaniel.htm
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the italian greyhounds you dont have to worry too much about that sighthound instinct, your cats would easily beat up an IG, the IG's ive met have most of thier "chase anything that moves-ness" bred out and love to chase in play but arnt a "bring down" sight hound.
Whippets have alot more of that chase an dbring down instinct but most wont even attempt a normal sized cat (i wouldnt trust them with a tiny kitten though)
the nice thing with any sight hounds is give them 1/2 hour of good running/play time and theyll happily take over your couch the next.

if you like the sighhounds i think an Italian grey might just be perfect.
there not as difficult as some of the other small breeds to housebreak, the ones ive met have all been healthy with great personalities...
in the summer expect to use sunscreen (there very thin coated) on the nose and ears, and in the winter a nice sweater will be apreciated, but otherwise their fairly low maintenecne in terms of coat upkeep lol.

Cresteds are a wonderfull breed, alot of people think there ugly, however the powderpuff look gorgeous and have a terrier x sighthound type of presonality.
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I think some of the problems with size is many apartments (at least here) have a 'no pets over 25 lbs' policy. Here you can't hardly rent if your dog is over 30 lbs. Could be different other places though.
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