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Old 04-19-2007, 04:20 PM
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heart counts as muscle meat not as organ meat. And the egg shell won't be digested whole. It needs to be ground up first.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:22 PM
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Yup, I had plans on grinding it. Right now I need to use what is available to me. Bones won't be that easy to get ahold of either (I don't think), but I will check into it. What would be more appropriate? Egg shell or bone?
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:26 PM
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I think bone is more natural for them. It shouldn't be too hard to get bone. Do you have a local butcher? Ask if they can collect the tails for you. Mordy told me to just feed it whole with the hair and everything. I never got mine to collect them (he's lazy) but with the right guy it should be easy enough.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:27 PM
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Should I use both organ and muscle meat? Like liver? Sorry for asking so many questions but I really don't know much about feeding raw. Still doing research and I want to get them on MY raw as soon as possible. The stuff I am buying right now is 70 cents a patty and 75 cents a patty to have it shipped. That is $1.45 a patty and Magnus needs 5 a day alone. That is $7.25 a day or $227.50 a month JUST for him. Not to mention the rest of them. This whole dog food recall has just got me scared to death.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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Hmm, not sure if I want to feed the dogs hair and everything. Not that it is probably bad for them but just because it would gross me out lol. What other bones can be ground easily?
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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You're going to grind it too? lol Well you are putting a lot of work in.

Here's what I fed when they were 100***37; on raw (and they still get raw meals occassionally)

- Chicken necks and backs (bought at the frozen discount section of Extra Foods)
- Ground pork or beef (bought same place) I only added this after they got used to the chicken
- tried to feed them fish once a week but salmon was the only really option (they won't eat 'green' fish) and salmon made them sick
- kidney or liver once or twice a week. Usually it was beef but sometimes chicken or turkey was on sale
- veggie mix (usually whatever was leftover from my meal) or baked yams...
- salmon oil capsules (they love these!)
- and a healthy powder mix that mordy shared with me. I can't find the recipe right now but it included ground egg shells, vitamin C, and nutritional yeast (b vitamins)

For my four dogs (300lbs roughly) it cost me $5 - $7 a day to feed them.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:47 PM
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id avoid organ meat at first, and then when you add it in do so very slowly. heart is clased as muscle meet so no worries, but kidney liver ect should be added slwoly or youll likley have an icky tummy on your hands.

since your already feeding the patties, are they chicken based or beef based? your at a head start from that.

beef ribs are good if you can get the meaty beef ribs, dont even bother grinding....ox tail also good, esentailly the bones you want are non weight baring bones (ribs, necks, tail, backs, ect) the weight bearing bones are better as rec bones and good for keeping the teeth clean/as a treat.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:14 PM
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The patties they are on right now are beef based. I would like to keep it that way because like I said, it is easy for me to get ahold of around here. Not too much chicken unless I want to buy from the hutterites and to be quite honest I don't really trust their food. I wouldn't eat it myself and therefore wouldn't feed it to my dogs.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:17 PM
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Really? I'd love to buy from the hutterites if we had a local colony. I've thought about buying from the white russians but they overcharge
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:38 PM
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Yeah, I am not fond of the hutterites around here. My husband is an agricuture construction worker and sells graineries and that sort of thing. He deals with them all day and they have brought some of their product to him. All I have to say is YUCK!
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