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Old 03-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Well, the one and only Mountain Cur tested was normal for HD.

I'm curious, do most working dogs get the x-rays done? Obviously, they should. But I've been browsing some sites for stock dogs recently, and never saw any signs of health checks on any of them. Is it normal that the dogs out there working all day on a ranch aren't getting health checks done, or do some breeders do it? I'm looking at dogs with zero show lines. Not actually looking looking, like buying , just curious.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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Most times if the dog has anything under what would be a "Fair-Good" rating, the dog just can't work all day long and wouldn't be bred anyway.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:33 PM
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I think so too, Renee. I notice in my breed that the show-bred dogs tend to have looser hips. It might be from lack of conditioning, but I'm not sure. On the flip side, working Border Collies as a whole tend to have "loose" hips, which some people believe allows for greater flexibility and range of motion, as well as giving a little room for trauma and injury. It's not dysplasia, obviously, but hips that the PennHip and OFA people might look at and go "hmm". But yeah, i wish there were pedigrees on the OFA site.

BB - as Zoom said, an unsound dog just couldn't do the work that stockdogs are expected to do. But I guess the question is, why does the OFA rating matter if the dog is working a ranch on a regular basis? If the dog can work, I consider it sound. Now, for the Sporter collies like Dakota, I'd insist on OFA'd stock. The dogs really don't do "normal" stuff like stock work, nothing is really testing their body as well as their mind, so I want some proof that the dog is of optimal soundness if it is going to twist, leap, skid, turn and stop on a dime like it does in agility.

Border Collies are # 72 in hips, with 11% abnormal. #83 in hips, with 1.5 abnormal.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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I'm disappointed to say that the APBT is number 22 for dysplastic hips. (If I remember correctly. I just visited the site yesterday.) Everybody wants to point the finger at other lines/types for encouraging the HD, and few are actually stepping up and getting the testing done. ETA: I was almost right. Number 26. The AmStaff is 22. ETA ETA: Holy crap! The Dogo is really up there, too!
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:22 PM
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tibetan terriers: hips #119, hearing #4, patella #7, everything else n/a

the dandie dinmont had a weird result: N/A, 32 evals, 50/50 on the percentages.
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Dobes are...

#21 Cardiac (99.1% normal)
#75 Elbow (98.5% normal)
#113 Hips (93% normal)
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Max was half shar-pei and half something else so I'll do shar-pei.

cardiac ranks N/A
Elbow ranks #4 (28.3 abnormal, 70.1 normal)
Hips rank #66 (13.5 abnormal, 85.2 normal)
Patella rank #4 (17.8 abnormal, 82.2 normal)
thyroid rank N/A (4.2 abnormal, 91.7 normal)

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Old 03-13-2007, 04:40 PM
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Danes:

ELBOW #48 with 95.7% normal
HIPS #77 with 86.6% normal

To me it didn't seem like a large degree of dogs were tested either (by comparison to other breeds.)
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:43 PM
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Blackmouth cur: Only 1 tested for hips, and it was 100 percent.

Catahoula: Out of 341 dogs, 25.2 percent had hip dysplasia. They rank 23rd. I'm surprised how high they rank.
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:40 PM
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BB - as Zoom said, an unsound dog just couldn't do the work that stockdogs are expected to do. But I guess the question is, why does the OFA rating matter if the dog is working a ranch on a regular basis? If the dog can work, I consider it sound.
That's pretty much what I thought, but I admit ignorance on breeding issues . Thanks.
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