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Old 03-12-2007, 08:51 PM
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Good posting Mach.

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:07 PM
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I'm with Mach !!! My mentors both worked , showed , bred their champions ( maybe a litter every year or two ) both Judged on the side , boarded etc. and I'd say never made a penny from their dog endeavors . Just helped fray the expenses .
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:11 PM
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i agree with mach too!

I wonder if other dogs think Cresties are members of some weird religious cult?

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:30 PM
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I agree. Something's fishy if a breeder is making a living off of the breeding itself.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:55 PM
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I also agree!

maybe stud fees, and whelping a litter
male dog is thiers, female is not... but the female will stay and have her pups there..
maybe that is what brings in the money.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:56 PM
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Yeah, that's really strange if a person is making a living off breeding and does it *right*

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Old 03-13-2007, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach1girl View Post
If this is his only source of income, where is the money coming from to show and have health testing done????Vet bills? Shots? Training? Training equipment? Travel expenses?Diet choices?

Do you even know what health testing consists of???Showing consists of???

Sister, someone is lieing to you!

Situation here is different. Vet services are cheap. Travel is not that expensive since most of the shows are held in Metro Manila and nearby provinces. Thus, its not really impossible to earn money from dogs and be a show breeder at the same time. They even export their dogs. Please take note that they don't just breed. They breed and produce well conformed dogs, but they do it as a means of livelihood. Is it ethical?
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:59 AM
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I wonder this also.
like i said, these people i know...
they breed often yes, but they have homes lined up. they test them, and they have produced a large amount on American/Canadian champions.
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Old 03-13-2007, 07:00 AM
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I agree with IliamnasQuest. I think it has to be carefully decided per dog and with a vet's input.
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:28 AM
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I leave the word puppymiller for dogs that are not only bred for profit but also not well taken care of.
I have never really heard of a puppymiller showing - xraying and working.
( few rare akc examples when they get into hoarding)

I use the term Commercial breeders who breed many litters a year that do little or no health or work or show. They need to breed allot to pay bills or too off set costs of having tons of dogs to feed.
Commercial breeders can turn puppmillers quick when they get in over their heads with too many to take care of.

And I use the term backyard breeder who has a few dogs , none or few are proven in anything other than the ability to produce a litter.

Professional breeders work in the industry and off sets costs in handling fee's for other dogs, judging,traning, selling products they create or find a need for, running their own shows etc etc.
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