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Old 05-03-2005, 12:30 PM
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hmn ill take that as a note. Liver is about 20% of his morning diet actually.

Ill just give him more beef instead of liver then.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:35 PM
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Mine go out and supplement their diets with raw themselves on top of everything else, lol! Yesterday morning Bimmer and Shiva caught a HUGE groundhog together. The head on it was almost as big as Bimmer's He ate half and left half for Shiva. They're on the Extreme Raw diet some days . . . Kharma had a huge big jackrabbit for dinner the other night . . .
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He doesnt eat alot of dry food.

He eats meat/liver in the morning and a cup of dryfood at night.
do you supplement the meat at all?

reading through these posts, i'm beginning to think his diet may overall not be very balanced if you feed only meat and liver in the morning and kibble at night.

this could be a mineral imbalance affecting the skin.
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:48 AM
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do you supplement the meat at all?

reading through these posts, i'm beginning to think his diet may overall not be very balanced if you feed only meat and liver in the morning and kibble at night.

this could be a mineral imbalance affecting the skin.
By meat/liver, if it makes any difference?, i meant, all kinds of things: Chicken, Duck, some Turkey, Liver, Beef, No pork though.

We give him fish oil capsules as well.

The meat usually has some carrots around it as well.

What do you think im missing? Should add some vegetables to his diet?
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Old 05-04-2005, 09:24 PM
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the main issue i'm concerned about is a possible mineral imbalance, since it looks to me like you are feeding boneless meat. the ratio of calcium to phosphorus in a dog's diet should be 1:1, but anywhere on a range of up to 2:1 is still acceptable.

if you feed meat without bones, the phosphorus content is automatically going to be higher than the calcium content, which doesn't only affect these two minerals, but also interaction with other minerals and vitamins. on top of that, a diet that contains too much unbalanced phosphorus is not good for the kidneys at all.

i highly recommend adding enough of a calcium supplement to the meat so you have a ratio of at least 1:1.
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the main issue i'm concerned about is a possible mineral imbalance, since it looks to me like you are feeding boneless meat. the ratio of calcium to phosphorus in a dog's diet should be 1:1, but anywhere on a range of up to 2:1 is still acceptable.

if you feed meat without bones, the phosphorus content is automatically going to be higher than the calcium content, which doesn't only affect these two minerals, but also interaction with other minerals and vitamins. on top of that, a diet that contains too much unbalanced phosphorus is not good for the kidneys at all.

i highly recommend adding enough of a calcium supplement to the meat so you have a ratio of at least 1:1.

Oh i Didnt consider bones as being part of his diet, more like treats :P

Sorry. He eats about one cow bone a week ( full leg). He shreds it and eats it.
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Have you tried giving him some chicken quarters a few times a week? They have a very nice meat to bone ratio.
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Have you tried giving him some chicken quarters a few times a week? They have a very nice meat to bone ratio.
Hmn no, I've been advised against giving anything with chicken bones. Reason is they splinter and can scar/rapture intestines when swallowed. At least thats what I've been told and I tend to agree with it.


I bought him some Innova EVO food, and slowly transitioning him from his dry good to this one. Also stopped giving him liver.


Hope to see some improvement
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Only cooked bones splinter. Raw is fine.

The Innova EVO is great. I'm sure it will help you a lot.
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Feeding raw bones is fine, because they don't splinter. My girls eat raw chicken bones all the time and are perfectly fine .
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