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Old 02-13-2007, 10:38 PM
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I missed 2 questions sorry, I've kept her on this schedule of cranberry and bottled water since her last UTI.

I rotate between Eagle pack holistic fish formula, and Timberwolf Ocean Blue.

I saw her ph starting to come down by the next day of changing her water and adding cranberry.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:26 AM
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I used pool strips to check the ph of my tap water, as well as the office urinary strips.
Is there any reason why you can't test urinary pH with a regular pool strip? I found the pool strips at Home Depot, but not sure where to get the special "medical" urinary pH strips.

Thanks again for the advice.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:10 AM
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I dont know if you can buy urinary strips at the drug store, you can check. The used to sell strips you can buy to check your sugar in your urine at the store and I think they also had protein and ph on them, not sure 100 % though.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:19 AM
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Here's a reply from Danielle Marshman at Eagle Pack:

"Thank you for contacting Eagle Pack Pet Foods. All Eagle Pack formulas are
geared to meet the 6.0-6.4 Ph levels. If you have any other questions,
please feel free to contact Eagle Pack Pet Foods again."


Still no reply from Natura Pet, however.
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:27 PM
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Finally got a reply from Veronica Moreno at Natura Pet:

"Thank You for contacting us about our products. All of Natura’s canine formulas are formulated to produce a slightly acidic urine with the average urine pH being 6.6-6.8."
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:39 PM
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Good deal, thanks for the info on Natura.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:11 AM
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For those that may be interested, the following is a reply from Sarah Wadleigh at OnlyNaturalPet.com:

"More recent studies have suggested that cranberry juice's effectiveness against bacteria is not in its ability to acidify the urine, but in its ability to prevent bacteria from sticking to the lining of the urinary tract where they can multiply and cause infection. Two anti-adhesion factors have been isolated from cranberry juice, fructose and another polymeric compound of unknown nature. Several fruit juices have been tested, but only cranberry and blueberry juice contain the latter inhibitor."


She didn't say whether or not blueberry juice is safe for dogs.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:48 AM
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When Darci had a UTI Her urinary ph was at 8.5, tested at the vets office.
I work in a doctors office and brought home the strips to test her urine with.
At the time of the vet visit, they advised me to change her diet and add bottled water and cranberry.

She had 2 UTI's in a 8 month period. After making the above changes I made she hasnt had one since. It's been around 5 - 6 months aprox.

I used pool strips to check the ph of my tap water, as well as the office urinary strips.

Now Darci's urine stays around 6.5. I havent checked it though in about 6 weeks.

Since the food is in a good range for ash levels, I would do the cranberry and water changes then test the urine and see if it has fixed the problem.

Does he drink enough water ? I also add a little water to her food both am and pm feeding. ( about 1/4 - 1/3 cup of water )

The high ph levels over time can cause crystals in the bladder which can cause inflammation and lead to UTI, urinary incontinence, bloody urine (hematuria ), bladder stones etc.

We didnt know Darci had a problem until she starting wetting in the house and had hematuria ( blood in her urine ).

I am no expert by any means but these are things that worked for us, I learned alot from our vet and through some help from other dog owners on boards like this one.

I had some people suggest distilled water and some say only distilled water for no more than a week, I couldnt find a concrete answer either way so I went with bottled water.

I tested our bottled water several times and it was always around 5 or so.

As far as testing the urine, I follow her during potty breaks, and slide a plastic bowl under her when she squats, then dip the stick in her urine.

I get strange looks from the dog and my neighbors....lol

I hope this info has helped.
Great advice. Adding water to your dogs food or even feeding some canned food will "de-concentrate" your dog's urine and will prevent urinary crystals from forming.

I would give all of your pets spring water or distilled water. Make sure the spring water says no added minerals. Tap water both city and especially well contain minerals that can raise the Ph in the urine. Spring water at Wal Mart is $.79 a gallon. That's what I buy.

I would not go with a fish formula, because as it does acidify the urine, it also contains more magnesium than other meats and magnesium raises PH. I would go with Innova, as others have mentioned. Innova's senior canned diet contains cranberry and glucosamine, both of which help prevent crystals from forming. A vet in my area sells Innova Senior canned as her urinary tract infection/crystal diet.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:40 AM
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So we've been mixing pure cranberry juice (not from concentrate) into Manni's water for about the past 2 weeks now. He didn't like it much at first, but he got used to it and now I think even enjoys it.

Anyway, finally yesterday I got around to testing his urinary pH. I was pleased to see that it's down from about 7.5 to somewhere between 6.75-7.

If anyone is interested, I used "Alkalive pH Test Stix" made by Phion Nutrition to test his urinary pH (I got them from Amazon).

Also, I used "Poolmaster 4 In 1 Test Strips For Testing Free Chlorine, Bromine, Alkalinity and pH" from Home Depot to test the pH in his waterbowl (which, not surprisingly, a little on the alkalive side).

Anyway, hope this thread is helpful to folks who may come across it in the future.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:45 AM
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I would not go with a fish formula, because as it does acidify the urine, it also contains more magnesium than other meats and magnesium raises PH. I would go with Innova, as others have mentioned. Innova's senior canned diet contains cranberry and glucosamine, both of which help prevent crystals from forming. A vet in my area sells Innova Senior canned as her urinary tract infection/crystal diet.
If you're interested, the Eagle Pack Holistic Select Large & Giant Breed Adult Formula contains both cranberries and glucosamine:
http://www.eaglepack.com/Pages/HS_LGAdult.html

It's cheaper than Innova around here and seems to be better pH balanced, so I think we'll be switching him to it when this bag of Innova runs out.
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