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Old 04-25-2005, 08:13 PM
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I think hamburgers probably have more nutritional value. Can I get fries with that?
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Old 04-26-2005, 09:12 AM
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My mom fed her dog Ol' Roy and I got onto her and the vet got onto her so finally she switched. I was so glad.

Brady gets Innova. He loves it, and it is a really good food. I think I should be eating it too....
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:33 PM
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Thanks, I knew it was bad but didn't know it was that bad... I'll try to get him to change right away.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:07 AM
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A dog this cool looking will love Innova. Great pic!
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:13 PM
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I've been feeding my dogs Dick Van Patten's venison and brown rice (Natural Balance)because Lyric has a problem with lose stools. It's an allergy formula...single source protein and fewer ingredients. This food cured that and it's a good, premium food, but his coat is a little dry. (don't like that)

I just now bought Canidae which I've fed before and it's a great food. He always had a beautiful coat. Either way, he's very energetic and seems to feel just fine. However, Lyric again....back to the looser stools and methane gas that would power my house if I could get it into my propane tank. So, what do I do? No one carries Innova around here. I have one more feed store to ask if they can order it. I wonder if that one might work better. Some Dobe people recommend California Natural, but again....can't get that here. I am interested in the raw food diet, but think I need a whole lot more education on it.

These Dobes are prone to have sensative tummies. My Chi's don't care what they eat.

Any ideas?

PS...I have a friend who feeds Ole Roy too. I've told him how disgusting that stuff is. He doesn't seem to think it's very important. Grrrrrrr. People who don't care a lot about their dogs drive me nuts. He's nice to the dog and loves it, but doesn't see the importance about feeding....or something like that.
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:51 PM
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doberluv, canidae and innova are both formulations with many different things in the formulation, so i don't think it's surprising that your sensitive dog reacted. have you considered staying with the NB (which obviously works) and just supplementing with fish oil?
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:25 PM
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I'll try that. You know, it's funny....I use to feed that to the dogs along with some kelp and other stuff when I was feeding something else. I completely forgot about trying that. Thanks for the idea! I bet I still have it in my cupboard. So, you think that NB is pretty good stuff? It sure makes his stools a good consistancy.....enough that I call my mother and tell her all about it. LOL. Just kidding.

But one thing....isn't it bad to feed the same kind of meat forever and not give a variety of meats? Don't some have one thing that they need and others have something else that they need? Like with the raw food diet....don't they tell you to switch around a lot with various meats?

Anyhow, thanks again for the tip.
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it's certainly not a bad food at all. in my personal opinion it ranks higher than wellness for example.

as for variety - it's certainly a good thing, if the dog tolerates it. but in some cases the condition and wellbeing of the individual dog dictate what you can and can't feed. if the food is of good quality, and even better if you can offer some fresh foods for variety, there is nothing to worry about.

i know of highly sensitive dogs who for years have been on a home prepared diet that consists of only a small number of ingredients, simply because they can't tolerate anything else and their condition can only be stabilized by leaving out whatever causes problems. if that means that a dog would have to live for example on ground turkey and sweet potatoes for the rest of his life to be comfortable, it's all you can do. sure, you'd want to look for a nice multivitamin/mineral supplement the dog can tolerate so no deficiencies occur, but the dog's health is not going to suffer from lack of variety.

even on a raw diet you can achieve variety without feeding many different meat types. te key on variety in this case is that you would basically offer all the different parts of a prey animal (e.g. not just plain muscle meat, but also heart, liver, lung, spleen, trachea, intestines maybe even with their contents, the head, tail, etc.). if you look at what nature offers for example a wolf (not a comparison i like to make, because it's incorrect in so many ways), you will find that deending on where the wolf lives, he might be very specialized on a particular type of prey, depending what animals live in the area. for one that might be predominantly elk, for another rabbits, and so on.
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Thanks Mordy. Yes, I thought of that....that idea of wolves or any animal for that matter, eating what is in the area that they range in. It may tend to be limited to one or two types of animals. Who knows?

Yes, when I studied a bit about nutrition and looked into the different things dogs need and looked at these various foods, I thought that one looked pretty good. I though Innova looked probably the best, but I can't get that and it's true...it's another one with a lot of stuff in it. I think flax may be one culprit for Lyric.

It will take me a long time to go through this huge bag of Canidae with only the Chihuahuas eating it. LOL. So, maybe when I go to Seattle next week, I'll take it and give it to my son for his dog for a present. LOL.

Well....thanks again for your ideas.
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I've been feeding my dogs Dick Van Patten's venison and brown rice (Natural Balance)because Lyric has a problem with lose stools. It's an allergy formula...single source protein and fewer ingredients. This food cured that and it's a good, premium food, but his coat is a little dry. (don't like that)

I just now bought Canidae which I've fed before and it's a great food. He always had a beautiful coat. Either way, he's very energetic and seems to feel just fine. However, Lyric again....back to the looser stools and methane gas that would power my house if I could get it into my propane tank. So, what do I do? No one carries Innova around here. I have one more feed store to ask if they can order it. I wonder if that one might work better. Some Dobe people recommend California Natural, but again....can't get that here. I am interested in the raw food diet, but think I need a whole lot more education on it.

These Dobes are prone to have sensative tummies. My Chi's don't care what they eat.

Any ideas?

PS...I have a friend who feeds Ole Roy too. I've told him how disgusting that stuff is. He doesn't seem to think it's very important. Grrrrrrr. People who don't care a lot about their dogs drive me nuts. He's nice to the dog and loves it, but doesn't see the importance about feeding....or something like that.
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Natural Balance is a Super premium brand, so is Innova and California Natural both made by Natura. Have you checked into Wellness, another Super Premium brand? What are the treats you are giving them? Is it possible one or more ingredients are the cause of the gas? Another thing, when introducing a new food you need to do it gradually, 1st day, 90 % old, 10% new, 2nd day, 80 % old, 20 % new until last day 100 % new food.
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