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Old 12-27-2006, 02:54 PM
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The Amish treat animals very well. I highly doubt the Amish are mistreating any living creature. I would also venture to say that the Amish know more about any animal that they deal with than anyone else out there. I have had nothing but good dealings with the Amish, others would disagree I'm sure. They are shrewd business folks.
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:58 PM
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Are you serious? They are the one's who run the puppymills around here, they are all Amish run, the mills and the auctions.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:03 PM
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When I lived in PA, I dealt with them all the time on livestock. I was impressed with the quality and health of the critters. If they are truly practicing Amish, I'm surprised. There may be a few bad ones out there, but I don't think it's fair to trash all folks for some bad ones. If you have an issue with the Amish, go to the elders. They'll take care of that crap right now.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:08 PM
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Actually, doing a bit of research myself on puppymills a few years back, I was quite surprised to find the same information- that many puppymills are Amish run. I have no doubt that the majority of the Amish are wonderful people, but I'm also pretty darn sure that what ALCR is saying is true.

And we have to remember that people running these mills aren't necessarily *evil* just horribly misinformed/uneducated about bringing healthy puppies into the world. It may just be the fact that they don't see animals the way most of us do- as family members. If you're running a puppy mill you see animals as a means to an end, as a way to make money and not much more.

I have no doubt that the Amish treat their OWN animals very well (mistreated horses would be absolutely useless), but the ones they sell to make money are an entirely different story.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:16 PM
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It may be true, I can only speak from what I've seen first hand. I can tell you that the Amish that I personally dealt with were very good with their animals. First name basis with their horses; horses aren't stupid, they'll act out if they are mistreated. Dogs, cats, all the other critters looked well cared for and very well behaved. I did know one Amish sawyer; he was a crook and was constantly being upbraided by the elders until he was expelled. Like I said, there are a few bad apples, but to paint a whole culture with the same brush is wrong. Unless the whole OH settlement is corrupted, if you have any concerns take them to the village elders. Their teachings are very clear about the responsibilities and stewardship of their charges, animal or otherwise.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:18 PM
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I know that some clans are inbred to the point of retardation; the Amish I spoke to are aware of animal husbandry. I'm sure that there are some who are not. I just haven't had the misfortune of running into them.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:47 PM
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Just to clarify something, I never accused them all of being horrible animal abusers. I mentioned this place because they advertized in the paper. There is no question that they are Amish but their animals in this case or just in awful conditions. I know that the Amish right around here in Ohio, many of them take part in the puppymills, they run these auctions. I run into many Amish at the stores and I don't have anything against them. I go to a Amish run restaurant and their food is wonderful and they are nice. But there is no question that these places here are run by Amish. That doesn't make them all horrible people, just some of them. The one's who raise and sell pups for breeding and profit, who run these mills and auctions and who horrible mistreat their animals, all for profit. They are where the pet stores get their pups from. Amish puppy mills.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:55 PM
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That is very sad.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:56 PM
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I'll contact some in PA and see what their position is. Maybe they can do something about it.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:57 PM
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Do you have specific examples? Names, locations, etc.?
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