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Old 12-11-2006, 12:45 PM
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I second the hardwood and no problems. My dogs and cats don't scratch up my floors but my daughter has with some of her toys! Doesn't matter what you do to prevent scratching of your floors they will still find a way to get them LOL!
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:59 PM
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We have 'real' 40 year old hardwood floors. Any damage has been my carelessness moving things, not dog claws.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:05 PM
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I also have old hardwood floors, and the dogs haven't scratched them. Just chairs and furniture and stuff
My unlce got a lab puppy (who is monsterously huge now) and he has brand spanking new wood floors. No scratches from the puppy... but the coffee table on the other hand...
Besides, if the dogs nails are kept at a correct length they don't touch the floor when a dog is walking normally.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:11 PM
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HMmmmmmmmm.... Dogs Or Hardwood Floors?

I choose dogs! and years down the road dogs can provide great memories....and my guess, a scratch or two will not be remembered.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:20 PM
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Just about any dog will bark at strangers on their property.

The first thing that came to mind for chasing off geese and deer was a herding breed. A good Border Collie or Aussie would probably keep everything away. The stare that herding breeds give their "stock" really terrifies wild animals; their eye-stalk is similar to that of a wolf or coyote.

Borders and Aussies are both protective, but not extremely so. My Border Collie does a lot of barking and snarling when someone comes to the door but as soon as they walk away, he stops and goes back to what he was doing. If I let them in, he accepts them graciously.

I would put up some cheap fencing around your 8 acres. You don't need a 6ft brick wall, just something to designate YOUR property - not only for the dogs to see, but for people walking by to see as well. If someone sees a couple of loose dogs, they get worried and could very easily do something to hurt the dogs. If someone sees a couple of dogs behind a fence, they're okay.

While I personally prefer to see dogs live indoors, working dogs are an exception. Deer only wandered onto our property at night, and that's when we needed the dogs to be outside.
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I agree about the Aussie's or Border Collies. They have the tendancy to dig though, so the fence alone may not keep them in.
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Id like to see a couple of Collies take out a coyote...
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:48 PM
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if you want vocal, maybe a sheltie
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:09 PM
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Just about any dog will bark at strangers on their property.

The first thing that came to mind for chasing off geese and deer was a herding breed. A good Border Collie or Aussie would probably keep everything away. The stare that herding breeds give their "stock" really terrifies wild animals; their eye-stalk is similar to that of a wolf or coyote.

Borders and Aussies are both protective, but not extremely so. My Border Collie does a lot of barking and snarling when someone comes to the door but as soon as they walk away, he stops and goes back to what he was doing. If I let them in, he accepts them graciously.

I would put up some cheap fencing around your 8 acres. You don't need a 6ft brick wall, just something to designate YOUR property - not only for the dogs to see, but for people walking by to see as well. If someone sees a couple of loose dogs, they get worried and could very easily do something to hurt the dogs. If someone sees a couple of dogs behind a fence, they're okay.

While I personally prefer to see dogs live indoors, working dogs are an exception. Deer only wandered onto our property at night, and that's when we needed the dogs to be outside.
Those are all great points. I like seeing dogs inside more too.

We have deer that come in our yard, and honestly, any dog could scare them away. They run from the papillons!

Think about the other wildlife that you have in your yard too. We have coyotes outside and no dog is really safe with them around. They attack dogs in their own fence, which is part of the reason I don't like dogs left outside.

To me, it sounds like you want a herder. Our shelties are amazing at scaring things away. (Albeit we never let them out when we have the coyotes or bobcats in our yard) The deer are terrified of Trey as he barks so loudly (and a lot) and he looks bulkier than he really is. Collies and Aussies and such are generally warier of strangers, yet they are not usually 'attack' dogs. Herders are very intelligent, though, and have to have a 'job' or something to do. Shelties are very vocal, but they are so small, I'd worry about them being left outside all the time...

We have wood floors with minimal scratching. Just cut the dogs' nails often.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:54 PM
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I have 7 dogs living in runs, with exercise pen and additional 5 acres of farm to roam. Of the 7, only one fits your needs. It is a female golden retriever, very gentle, easy to train, lives in hay stuffed house (prefers living room couch, where she likes to be stroked for hours). We have, poodle-age 14,rat terrier-age 15,blue heeler age 10, Aussie-heeler cross age 7,Golden age 1, Yellow lab age 1. All my dogs adore me and are well trained, but still I could only recommend the Golden for your criteria. I once had a yellow lab as gentle as this Golden is, but these were the only 2 dogs perfect enough for you in my last 40yrs experience. Good luck.
Wild coyotes, deer, hogs,coons, and abandoned dog packs run through our place every night, so we are awakened often to a chourus of parking, but we get used to it. WE have never had reason to need a guard dog out here, while surrounded by 5 acres tracts, and all different kinds of people.
You may find you will not need a guard dog, but rather a quite one!
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