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Old 11-24-2006, 07:11 PM
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Default Pitbulls and American Bulldogs, look at these pics, are they right?

I was learking though a bulldog forum and they were talking and sharing pics of the top working APBTs no these dogs just look huge to me, way bigger then any ive ever seen in person, i can post links to breeders sites of them but not sure if thats allowed but heres some pics. tell me are these right at all or there something wrong with these dogs?







those are the pitbulls, aren't them a big big? i mean a bit too big?

now here are the american bulldogs, now i read on there, there is actually 2 different breeds within the american bulldogs, i guess a standard and a bully.










is this right?
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:33 PM
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i dont know the answer.
but i will be glad when someone knows and replies! i was just sorta talking about this sort of thing
same dog breed, waaaaay diff looks
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:38 PM
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There are quite a few knowledgeable APBT people here, but until they arrive . . . There are certain "Pit Bull" lines that resemble the first dog you posted. I believe at least one of them has confessed to mixing in Mastiff-type dogs in order to get the bigger, wider look.

Not sure about the American Bulldogs, but I definitely like the "standard" look better.
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:44 PM
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no honey they are not pure APBTS or AmStaffs. They look like they are mix with a mastiff or something, but hey thats my opinion and im sticking to it . But I think they fall under that new breed.. Bully Breed

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Old 11-24-2006, 07:53 PM
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The american bulldog comes in two different types. The Scott and Painter types which is a performance bred dog, and the Johnson type dogs that are a larger heavier type dog.
Although many people will say the american bulldog is an ancient breed and has been around for hundreds of years there are some who remember when the above named breeders began their selection of dogs to start their breeding programs. For a while they did not reproduce themselves, they all returned to the size, shape, and looks of the pit bull when bred together. It took several more years before the breed could reproduce themselves. Now they are very well established.
The photos of the apbt are the modern version some people are breeding toward today. They do not fit the standard for either the apbt or the ast. While the size and shape of the apbt can be changed with selective breeding it is widely accepted there was crossbreeding in the examples shown.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:01 PM
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well it wasn't scott or painter, im pretty sure it was scott or johnson but one of them left so it went into just one breed, but now people are talking about 2 standands in the one breed
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:06 PM
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Here's some pics if your a more visual learner (like me lol)

I like the color of the second pic of the apbt...
but it looks staffy to me lol

this pic was on the ukc "standard" site


with american bulldogs
Though starting with much of the same stock, one can easily see how the lines would quickly diverge into the courageous and agile "Scott" or "Standard" type dogs and impressive, often more man-aggressive "Johnson" or "Bully" type dogs.


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Old 11-24-2006, 08:09 PM
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The dont 'personally' very pittie to me. I could see some mastiff mixed in there somewhere.

I imagine the pittie to be quite a bit leaner, not so... Wide.

Besides, they are supposed to be athletic. I bet that one couldn't run the length of my garage withought wheezing.

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Old 11-24-2006, 10:33 PM
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meh. the first pit bull is the typical short and wide. blech. an atrocity to call that a pit bull, imo. not at all in the spirit of the breed. the second one is better- has some leg to it and a more reasonable chest- but still overdone. i love the tri-color though, though i prefer not dilute.

i don't know much about american bulldogs.
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Old 11-24-2006, 11:34 PM
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Its very short and very wide...the head is massive...they're probably breeding for those looks, and not for health or standards..which is irresponsible to me.
I'll tell you one thing...it doesn't fit the standards, that's for sure!

The fourth one, the white, definately DOES NOT look like a pit bull.

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