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Old 11-04-2006, 04:08 PM
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I'm going to look at this horse next week. Any feedback, comments on how he is built--strengths weaknesses etc would be great. I want to use him for local shows--probably jumping about 2"6 and maybe some hunter paces.
There are some youtube clips of him--I'll post the links to those later. Thanks for looking and all opinions welcome! (By the way I've never had a spotted horse of any type --my other horse is solid balck--totally solid has always been my favorite--this horse is just so insanely loud that it appealed to me--almost like opposites attract I guess LOL ! ) And he is not pure App--he is a cross, but they do not know with what--any guesses??? Thanks!

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Old 11-04-2006, 06:14 PM
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Wow he certainly is flashy! Beautiful!! I don't know much about conformation, so I don't have much to offer in that department. How experienced a rider are you, because it says he's only been in training for 60 days and was green broke before that... is that enough that he'll be a steady ride? I mean it wouldn't be for me at all, but I have minimal experience and pretty much need a horse with years of experience being ridden to help me out
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:16 PM
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maybe you should ask a horse forum
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:29 PM
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He looks like he should be quite capable of the level of work you want him to be able to do - and his coloring is great! Are you thinking of him for hunter classes at the shows? If so, keep in mind that his color may work against him, depending on the judge. He's clearly not your typical TB hunter Also, if you are going to stand out like that, you are [I]going[I] to be remembered! That means if you do well or if you do bad. Blending in works to your advantage sometimes. I once fell off my very typical bay TB hunter during a large (20+ horses) undersaddle. I was off him for most of the class before getting a leg back up to go into the line-up. The judge didn't see me fall, never noticed I was missing for half the class, and placed us first!

Anyway, conformation. He does have a pretty straight and heavy shoulder. You can see in the trot picture, his forearm is extended as far as it is going to go. Again, for local hunter shows, it shouldn't be an issue; his trot is quite nice for that. I would be more concerned over larger fences (where he may not be able to get his front legs up enough) or if you were looking at second level or higher dressage. Also, look at his right hind carefully in person. It may just be the way he's standing, but it looks like he toes out quite a bit.

He looks very pleasant and relaxed in the jumping picture. Certainly well worth taking a look at! Be sure and post later to say how it went.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:00 PM
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He looks like a nice, solid horse just like you said. His conformation isn't perfect but for what you want he'd probably be a good option. His back looks a little flat and his neck is pretty thick. His legs are kind of funny. His front hooves look like they stick out from under his fetlocks while the back ones are the opposite. That doesn't necessarily mean anything though. Not for you purposes. He sounds like he's got a good start too. I'd consider him if the price was right and he wasn't too far away. Speaking of the price I don't know what horses are going for near you but for a young, horse that's just been started and isn't papered that's a bit high.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:04 PM
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Wow, thank you all so much thats is EXACTLY the kind of feedback I was looking for---I too had taken note of his straight shoulder and sort of shortish neck--I defintely will take a close lookat those legs and feet. But as you all have pointed out my goals are modest so I have to take several things into consideration. Below are the video clip links--they are poor quality but can give you and idea about his movement and attitude. I have gotten several long e-mails from the trainer telling me more about him. He is green, but sounds very willing and fairly uncomplicated.
And BostonBanker--I know exactly what you mean about standing out--years ago I saw several paint horse people struggle with that. The level I will be showing--it won't bother me--at least I don't think so! For some reason the different is what appeals to me at this point. Also that story about you falling off and winning the class is one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time I've seen a lot of things, but never that--thats a classic!
Also, Saje--I agree with you about the price-- He is green--the unpapered part--it really depends on how talented he is, but yes I think he might be priced a bit high--I think sometimes people do that on equine.com to see what happens. So I have several things to consider--and no, he is not that close to me--but I might be looking at other horses in the area too. Thanks again and I would love to hear what you all think of the video clips.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:09 PM
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oops! here are the clips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V_DQ9BI1MM (Trot clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2vQtlsZD5U (canter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1xNDwC_JU (jumping
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:16 PM
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Yikes, that really is high in my opinion. I purchased a retired (11 year old so still had a lot of show left in him) A circut jumper for half that amount five years ago. But maybe it's changed a lot since then.

He's a very nice looking horse, I won't repeat what others have said about the shoulder and neck, but I will say his colors make me smile. If you can get them to cut the price in half I'd say go for it.
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Old 11-05-2006, 02:40 PM
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The price certainly isn't that out there for our area, anyway.

How green of a horse are you prepared to deal with? Remember, the video clips are the very best bits they got on tape - and he is very fussy with his head, especially in the trot clip. What can I say, I do dressage now - that drives me crazy! And I'm surprised to see a horse who seems that green on the flat jumping. He certainly is quiet going to the jumps, but doesn't appear to get his change at the end (although it is a bit hard to see).

Just a couple more things to consider. If you have other horses to look at in the area, I'd certainly think he's worth looking at.
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:53 PM
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lol it's really hard to tell from the video but he seems to move nicely. When he trots he looks like he's tippy toeing around on his back feet.
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