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Old 11-09-2006, 06:51 PM
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Okay, I just can't keep quite about it anymore!! I haven't posted about whats been happening with Carly because of this huge nightmare, and I was a little afraid of what some would think of me

So, here I go:
A little history for those who are new and don't know, or for the ones who simply don't remember.
Carly was a a very young puppy (pure shih tzu) that I was given to foster. I was told that she was from a byb and the mother died so the owner gave the pups up. I raised Carly from a pup, and she had problems despite my efforts. Anxieties, random aggression, displacement aggression, ect. I had a hard time with doing the things I typically do with my dogs. Hiking, camping, ect. Then when I got Missy Carly would attack her... so instead of claiming her as my 'failed foster' I let her go to a home that had dog sat her several times. The rescue took over and did the paper work.

Several weeks or so after that there was a dilemma with her being spayed or not. There was a thread here, and I'd rather not bring it up again. I still feel partially to blame because she was living with me; she had silent heats and was apparently never spayed or "sterilized" as her paperwork said.
Words were exchanged between a rescue worker and myself, and I basically "quit." We avoid eachother... really...
But she had an appt to be spayed and I thought the whole ugly thing was over

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9.16.06
It's been months since I've heard from Carly's owner. I've called several times and e-mailed her to see how she's doing, but haven't heard anything. Yesterday I got an e-mail from her... and was horrified when I read it!!

She explained to me that the guy from the rescue told her not to keep in contact with me over the following months... Because Carly WAS actually pregnant, and they didn't want me to know!! So, the rescue failed to talk her into terminating the pregnancy (something that I'm certain I could've done). She didn't want to abort the puppies because she herself was (surprise) pregnant. So low and behold she went through the whole pregnancy and now has 4 puppies

I can't even freaking believe this!!! This is almost too much for me to handle. It makes me so frickin mad!!! How much more against the whole point of fostering the BYB pup can you get ??

I'm hating myself right now... I feel like I "let" this happen
here's pics - the day before she gave birth

6 hours old


So, then we played phone tag and e-mail tag while I tried repeatedly to go see them. The new owner was busy and avoidant at first. Finally I got to visit and see Carly and the puppies myself. I offered to help with the weaning and adoption process and all that. Here's some pics from that meeting:
The pups dad

the puppies right after they opened their eyes

one girl and one boys ears may stand up like their dads. Two of them seems to have hair that longer than the rest... They're really cute... but you can find a million puppies just as cute at any shelter..

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So, then, today she calls me. But I guess I should catch you guys up from then until now. . .
3 out of the 4 puppies have been re homed. The first puppy was taken by a friend at 5wks old She was supposed to be out and about for socialization and to show her parents for "approval" but the owner called me when the puppy was not returned the next day. I explained to her the importance of the pups staying with the Mom, and the puppy needed to be returned...! Long story short I was the one that had to call the girl, go get the puppy, and return her to Carly myself. But the puppy just went home with them yesterday... perminatly...

The other two owners were "strangers"... she let me go ahead with the whole spay or neuter thing, and they have my number and e-mail address if they need any help or can't keep either of them...

The last puppy is still at the house with Carly... She has everything in line for that final adoption, so I was really surprised when I got yet another phone call from her. She presented to me the story of they wanted to keep the puppy, but with the baby they had too many dogs and blah blah blah.

I seriously thought that they were going to ask me to come get the puppy! But then, to my surprise (not good surprise btw), I slowly realized what she was beating around the bush about, but once I did I continued to just listen to her beat around the bush and stammer around. I know its mean, I felt a little bad even because in a way the new owner was screwed over as well (but I still can't really forgive her for not spaying Carly early in the pregnancy), but I did it anyway. She struggled with the words and was very uncomfortable when she finally said "Dana, I just don't know if I want Carly anymore. I think she's about to go into heat again, and the surgery, or another litter is just too much. I can't keep her or Buddy confined because they scream to get out. . ." and the new baby has been keeping her up, and her boyfriend hasn't been paying child support, blah blah blah . . .


So I told her I would take her back if she was serious, and I would give her and myself time to think about it [and for me to prepare]. I then reminded and explained the whole thing to my parents, and asked them permission to bring another dog into the house (because my Dad still wants Charlie to be re homed, but has stopped harassing me about it daily) and to my surprise they said Yes! My mom is excited even! So... we'll see... I don't expect anything to come out of this, and I'm afraid to get my hopes up because I want Carly back really bad right now... Everything has been so twisted and nothing turns out the way I think it is, so I'm very nervous!

I'm trying hard to remember why I didn't keep her in the first place... I feel so stupid right now... and I'll praise the heavens if I'm 'given another chance' with her!!!
I'm afraid to get my hopes up, but I can't deny wanting to get her back really bad. . .

just had to share. Sorry so long!
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:23 PM
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It is nice your so excited but i have to ask you something?You mention living at home and needing permission from your parents,how old are you?

From the sounds of it you already have alot of animal's ,how can you afford there care?
Sorry this might sound wierd or strange that im asking but you gave her away,now you want her back out of guilt?

Is that a good reason? Dogs shouldn't be passed around,would you do this with a child?
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:35 PM
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Bdown, I think she is doing the right thing

She is trying very hard to correct the mistake she made

Dana, I thnk you have every right to be happy about getting her back! You will probably be able to give her a better home than that lady every did!
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:42 PM
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Thanks, Liz ~

This is why I didn't post when all of this was occuring...

Thanks for your concern, but you've got it wrong. Maybe I didn't do a very good job explaining, and for that I apologize. This is not just "my" mistake, though I don't deny I wish I would've done differently. The rescue put sterilized on her paperwork and let that slip through the cracks. She never was spayed. The new owner also wasn't screened very thoroughly (obviously). I won't talk bad about the "group" any longer, because it won't do any good... Anyway, I'll answer your questions:

I recently moved back in with my parents due to crime and harassment in my neighborhood. It was safer, and the "right" choice. I do think it is polite to ask the owners of the house before bringing another dog home, as far as permission goes. I could've brought her in without asking I guess. They wouldn't have been very surprised. And I'm not one of the young chazzers Younger than some, yes, but not a child for sure

I afford their care because um... I have a job and I budget. My dogs are like my children, and there's never a question about affording their care.
I don't really consider 3 dogs and 1 cat a lot of animals (I understand some people do), but just for the record - as I can see your a newer member - Charlie is a foster dog and I have a potential home lined up for him already. I just want to take things slow with him and make sure this is the right home, you know?

I would never pass around dogs, or get rid of them "just because"... Carly was a foster dog... I can see where you think I 'gave' her away, but its not that simple. Fostering. Rescue. Adopting out... Not that all uncommon

The rescue was not handling her case very professionally, and things fell through that never should have occurred. We got the raw end of the deal, Carly, myself, and the new owner... Not as good as a home as everybody though.
And yes I do want her back. Not just guilt - I love Carly, I honestly do
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:45 PM
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Oh BTW- the pups and mom are beautiful!!
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:51 PM
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well i hope everythign works out. good luck
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:58 PM
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It is nice your so excited but i have to ask you something?You mention living at home and needing permission from your parents,how old are you?

From the sounds of it you already have alot of animal's ,how can you afford there care?
Sorry this might sound wierd or strange that im asking but you gave her away,now you want her back out of guilt?

Is that a good reason? Dogs shouldn't be passed around,would you do this with a child?



Anyways Dana im glad you might get Carly back. I know you loved/love her and you were just trying to do what you thought was right at the time. And I know you will continue to keep Carlys best interests at heart. Your all good in my book .
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:00 PM
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I think that it's wonderful that the new owner decided to talk to you before she went and found Carly a new home. That was decent of her to do that. I'm glad that, if you haven't already decided to take her back, you are at least thinking about it. Of course it sounds like you've already made up your mind.

I know that you would give her the care she needs and give her a great home. Good luck!!
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:40 PM
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Argh! What a crappy situation.

I am glad you have the opportunity to get Carly back; I hope it works out. I'm curious though, what makes you think Carly and Missy will be okay together this time around?
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:00 PM
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It is a very crappy situation. Thanks to all of your kind words and understanding

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Anyways Dana im glad you might get Carly back. I know you loved/love her and you were just trying to do what you thought was right at the time. And I know you will continue to keep Carlys best interests at heart. Your all good in my book
Thanks, that's what matters I guess

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I think that it's wonderful that the new owner decided to talk to you before she went and found Carly a new home. That was decent of her to do that. I'm glad that, if you haven't already decided to take her back, you are at least thinking about it. Of course it sounds like you've already made up your mind.
I agree... I am glad I am the first to get the call...
Mind already made up, yes

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I'm curious though, what makes you think Carly and Missy will be okay together this time around?
Oh, I'm not counting on anything being different. Carly seems a bit more mature, but I wouldn't be surprised if she came back to me the same brat that left [lol] I am, however, hoping that she will come into this new house like all of the dogs a watch or foster do. They come into the house with 'alpha' dogs already in place, they tend not to challenge it...
but who knows
I, however, am more than willing to make it work as a perminent home! Not a foster home . . . Regardless of how much work or training it may require from me
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