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Old 11-06-2006, 12:48 PM
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Yes, I definitely wouldn't leave her loose in an area where she could hurt herself or get into something.....because she will. Outside, unattended....no good. What about an X pen? They're a little bigger and they can see out. The pup can run around a little bit....sort of.

I'm sorry about my opinion. It isn't very helpful, is it. I just am a softie I guess when it comes to puppies.

Agility sounds great. That's a really fun thing to do and BCs are soooooo good at it.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:01 PM
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Not it is! I don't want to do something that might hurt the pup (such as letting her loose, stupid idea ) I realy appreciate the help, honestly.

Well, once she has had her second set of jabs, she will be coming with me when I'm walking my other dog, but I'll be carrying her. I know the dogs that we come across when walking my dog, and know the ones that would be a good experience for her to be socialised with. Our breeder said it's best not to let her walk long distances up to about six motnhs, simply because of our intentions to do agility and the risk of hurting her hips etc...

If we could find some sort of play pen type thing, I could certainly have that in the dining room/kitchen. My dad is in there alot doing cooking, ironing etc... (proper house husband ) So I'd imagine that would be a bit more interesting for her.

Our breeder already said we should start training straight away, to take her mind of the lack of littermates and mum in the first few days she's with us. The breeder also said that without something to keep her mind occupied, she will find something else to do i.e. destroy stuff!

Socialisation is high up on the list. We live close to a main road and across the road from a fairly busy shop, so my plan is to take her outside (in my arms) for maybe 10 minutes at a time, and let people say hello etc...

And Yes, I'm really looking forward to agility. Obviously it'll only be flatwork until she's done growing, but all the same! If she doesn't like it, then fine, we'll find something else to do

I have to say again, thanks for the help, I've been really worrying about this.
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:22 PM
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I wouldn't expect a 7-8 week old pup to hold it for 3 hours at first- 2 hours might be the longest it can hold it at 8 weeks.
I would put an ex-pen in your kitchen with the crate and toys and some paper until the pup gets used to the scheduel and proves it can hold it for that many hours. The last thing you want is a dog that learns to poop in it's crate and be ok with that- then potty training is so much harder.

I think it's great that your dad can let the dog out in the middle of the day. The pup will certainly be sad and lonely initially but what are you gonna do? Most people can't take months off when they get a new puppy. It will be fine. The fact that you are thinking of all this means you're doing more than the average pet owner.

Just spend lots of time burning off that border collie brain energy. The biggest mistake people seem to make with herding dogs is thinking that leash walks or going sniffing is enough and it's just not. The need to have their brains engaged and you have to find ways to make thier lives stimulating that way with extra mental stim through games and toys that make them think, training and dog sports etc One walk a day typucally isn't enough for a high drive dog they need something in the morning AND at night which is where training and dogsports come in.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:28 PM
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I would have loved to have the crate downstairs in a pen, but it's not really an option. I need the crate in my room for the night times, and it is massive so it would be impossible to drag it up and down the sstairs each day!

I've been told a lot of different things about how long a pup can "hold it", but the average seems to be about 2-3 hours.

Well I already have a dog that would not live without at least her early morning run. She would keel over and die if I told her she had to stay on the leash! We spent a lot of time researching the breed and talking to responsible, experienced breeders to make sure we don't make the wrong choice. We understand that border collies in paticular need a job, and need to be stimulated
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Old 11-11-2006, 02:42 PM
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I'm still unsure of what to do. If I was to make a pen fro her, what could I make it out of?

Perhaps she could be crated int he morning and in the pen in the afternoon?

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Old 11-11-2006, 03:13 PM
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Crate training is a great and wonderful thing. Go for it.
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Old 11-11-2006, 03:27 PM
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when my daughter bought home Squirt, she planned on having her in the crate from about 6 a.m. to 10 p m. and didn't have a problem with that. I know, what an ... and that's my own daughter. I took the dog, and she is never in the crate except for a couple of hours in the aftern oon. I don't think that your schedule sounds bad at all. YOu are thinking and planning to make it the b est for you dog. Good Luck.
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Old 11-11-2006, 05:57 PM
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What an adorable picture of you and your pup. I think it's best that she's starting off with this schedule rather than when people take a couple of weeks off work and the pup gets use to them being around all the time, then they leave for work all day...shell shock. I think it's better for him to get use to it from the get go. And the x-pen you can buy. I think if you made it out of wood, she'd chew it. Yes, 8 week old pups can't hold it for long at all. They barely feel it ahead of time. So, the best you can do is maybe put a crate in an x-pen and maybe even a little box and train him to that in addition to outdoors when you can get him out. That could be confusing, but I know some people do that. At least he could learn to go in the box, not all over the place. Hmmm...just some thoughts.
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Old 11-11-2006, 06:17 PM
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Haha, thanks!

I'll certainly look into getting a play pen type thing, I'll look around the pet shops and things. She seems quite carm and not bouncing of the walls, but I realise that could easily change!

I'll have a quick looknow an dsee what I can find.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:28 AM
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Wait--why do the mom and dad look so small? Is this breeder pitching these as miniature Border Collies or something??
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