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Old 10-31-2006, 01:32 PM
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Default 9 Week Old Puppy, Sleeping And Outside Problem!

I have owned and had a lot of puppies in my lifetime, but this is a first for me.

We got a Mini Pinscher about a week ago. In the past when I have gotten a small breed puppy, I have had to take them outside once or twice during the night.

HOWEVER. the first night we had Cocoa home she had to get up twice. The next night twice, the third night 3 times, and the past couple of nights 4 times.

She always does one job or the other or both.

In the past my young puppies did this the first week and then slept through the night. Well, today is day 9 and we are not getting a good nights sleep due to her habits.

I am hesitant not to take her, since I don't want her pottying in her crate.

She is very persistant when she wakes up and if you don't get up with her she will just keep yelling.

I know enough about small dongs, use to the a breeder of Yorkies for the show ring, to see that it is not an infection or anything serious.

She has to go often in the daytime too. We seem to be going out every 30-60 minutes.

Is this typical of some dogs? I have never had a Mini Pinscher and I have heard they are hard to train. The breeder we got her from says that her mother was not at all difficult to trian.

I do know that she wants our constant attention during the day, we are retired and home all day.

When will she begin to hold it longer?
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:40 PM
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If she's really needing to go out every 30 minutes, and is pee'ing every time, I would take her in for a unrinalysis, just to be sure. This seems a bit excessive.

I don't have experience with toy breeds, so I will let others who do take things further...
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:44 PM
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Urinalysis yes, but also, what kind of dog food does she eat? Some brands cause increased elimination, so maybe that is an issue as well.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:47 PM
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Being a breeder of Yorkies for the show ring isn't enough to be able to determine whether or not a dog has a urinary tract infection. That takes a veterinarian and a microscopic examination. Frequent urination, scanty amounts are signs of a possible UTI. And if you think she's going too often, a call to the vet would be in order.

I don't think that every hour during the day is abnormal for a nine week old pup. She's just beginning to get a tiny bit of bladder control. I don't know what to tell you about the night time. You'll just have to use your judgement. Try feeding her her last meal several hours before bedtime. Some people pick up the water too at bedtime. I do not. I think a dog needs access to water at all times. I think going the whole night being thirsty is not only uncomfortable, but could cause kidney problems. I never had problems with my pups on account of leaving them water in their crate. You could try taking her out very late at night, one time in the middle and one time early in the a.m. and see how she does. But you're right, an accident in the crate wouldn't be good. Give her some time to mature and she'll be able to hold it better. She's just now beginning to feel it coming but on the last second. She's probably not able to hold it at all much.

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She may want your constant attention, but if you are constantly reacting to her, she will get more and more demanding. Try to sometimes be the one to instigate things. I'd start teaching her some little things like sit, down, come. Just a little bit....short times, fun and rewarding. Give her a little something to think about.

Good luck. I think Min Pins are adorable.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:48 PM
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My bulldog puppy is 4 1/2 months and she goes every half hour to hour when she's awake.

Keep taking her out at night but try feeding her earlier and pulling water an hour before bed...

She will outgrow this and you will sleep again
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:59 PM
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The breeder had her on Purina puppy chow with mother milk supplement, of course it is dry food, but that is what the bag says.

My sister-in-law uses Nutro puppy chow ( I think it is lamb and rice ) and likes it and suggested we mix it and perhaps eventually switch her over.

SO we have been mixing it half and half.

In the past, with my dog breeder experience, I have always use Eukanuba or Iams. I know with these I had less bowel waste.

Then I wonder if it is not that she just wants attention and because we get up and take her out, and that she is trying to please that she goes ahead and wets.

I have only had one similar problem and that was with a Chihuahua I had last dog before this one. She did this a lot, going often days, but then as she got to be a few months old that slowed way down.

I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE enough to know that there are usually signs if there is a uninary problem. I don't see any other then this. I do know a lot more then the average owner as I have worked very closely in the past with my vets and I have vet books on hand.

She is a quite demanding little dog otherwise, like wanting to be held and so on.

The other thing is that I am very particular and sometimes I think I "over take her out" in the fear of accidents, even though she will go when we take her.
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:47 PM
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All 4 of my dogs got urinary tract infections years ago when I fed Nutro Natural Choice Lamb & Rice... I have seen other dogs with the same problem back in my vet clinic days.

None of the foods you mentioned are quality at all. You may want to consider switching. You can learn the facts on dog food at - www.dogfoodproject.com
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:58 PM
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Based on what you have said, what food brands would you recommend?

It has long been my experience that I had very good results with both Iams and Eukanuba. Now I am simpy confused.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:51 PM
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Check out the food section of the forum...a lot of people have very strong opinions about what kind of food to use...I personally use eukanuba for my beagle/terrier mix and haven't had a single problem! So i say just find something that fits right with your specific puppy.
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Normally people here will suggest Canidae, Eagle Pack, or Innova. You can check out their websites and find a distributor around your area. Canidae.com for canidae, eaglepack.com for eagle pack, or naturapet.com for Innova. They are a little bit more pricey but you feed less so it all adds up. For example my almost 60 lb lab, who is an adult eats 2 and 1/2 cups of Innova a day and my 3 and 1/2 month old bernese mountain dog puppy eats a little less than 2 and 1/2 cups of Eagle Pack a day. My berner puppy was the same way though for awhile. She was sleeping in her crate all night and then she decided that she wanted to go out 2 or 3 times in the middle of the night so we got up with her but now she's back to sleeping all night in the crate.
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