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Old 10-27-2006, 12:13 PM
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Question Cross Breeding to Save a breed- Chinook

This is a carry over from the when does a mutt become a breed?
They tell you what they need to outcross and how many generations they need to call it a Chinook.

This breed had to open the stud books to help save their breed.
Not to be confused with Designer breeds or cross breeding and selling as purebreds. No one is lied too they do NOT reg the F1 Crosses as purebreds

CrossBreeding Program Goal

The Chinook Owners Association (COA) CrossBreeding Program is a long-term program developed in partnership with the United Kennel Club, Inc. (UKC) to add genetic diversity and quality to the current Chinook gene pool by developing Chinook cross lines that lead to progeny that attain UKC registration status as a Chinook.

Health evaluations are a vital component of this program, assessing the health of each litter and the breeding potential Chinooks. The CrossBreeding Program recently added descriptions about how PennHIP evaluations are used within the Program. The COA CrossBreeding Program description and requirements may be viewed in a
pdf document by clicking on the following link

Overview of Process
The breeding method employed during this process is to begin by breeding a non-Chinook (dog zero) with a full Chinook. "Dog zero" must meet the following four criteria: It must have a four generation traceable lineage with no known hereditary health faults. It must be a purebred dog selected from a breed purported to have contributed to the development of the Chinook, be a working breed of dog or be an unregistered working dog with a documented four generation pedigree. If purebred, it must possess a registration number from a recognized registry. It must be a good specimen of its breed and possess no major faults. Acceptable progeny of the first breeding will then mate with a full Chinook. This process is continued until the fourth generation. Fourth generation Crossbred Chinooks are then eligible for consideration as purebred Chinooks.

http://www.chinook.org/xbreeding.htm


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There is a huge difference in opening stud books and crossbreading to improve the health, working ability, etc of an animal and putting two dogs together and making rediculous claims about allergies, temperment, ability, etc, that are completely unfounded and untrue for the most part. Personally I think at some point most breeds will need to open things up a bit to get some "new" blood infused with the breed. But it won't be done haphazardly or without a goal in mind.
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There is a huge difference in opening stud books and crossbreading to improve the health, working ability, etc of an animal and putting two dogs together and making rediculous claims about allergies, temperment, ability, etc, that are completely unfounded and untrue for the most part. Personally I think at some point most breeds will need to open things up a bit to get some "new" blood infused with the breed. But it won't be done haphazardly or without a goal in mind.
Agree that is why I posted it we spend so much time on the 'designer breeds" .
We often dont speak of correct cross breeding and what makes a breed.

Its sad when the Designer breeds are listed as "Breeds" in shelters or on websites and now even books I think. Giving them some sort of acceptance.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:48 PM
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Windy's double grandfather, also Tanner's grandfather (on father's side) is a stocky, barrel chested, red Siberian. He has poor coat, horrid build, and poor performance in harness. His pedigree is half show, and half total utter BYB. He was a MAJOR stud dog used in the Chinook outcross program. Because of his lack of quality and how highly they all hold him, I honestly don't know what to think of the Chinook folks. For the most part I like the concept behind the program and the breed, but the strong use of this particular stud dog just baffles me.
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Wow like to learn since I will be judging this breed one day pls feel free to add any other infor you do get..
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Wow like to learn since I will be judging this breed one day pls feel free to add any other infor you do get..
I PM'd you the breeder and dog information.
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Thanks just getting it now VERY VERY interesting you do know your lines....

I am printing it off the PM box is too small for my aging eyes
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Oh, how I wish Love4Pits was still on...she's a Chinook breeder and could give you sooo much information...she's also a professional Husky breeder/musher, so if a dog sucked, she would know it and not use it to build up another breed.
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Zoom,

Unfortunately, some people capitalize on rare breeds to make a buck and boost their ego. Such is the case of the woman I know.
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From what I remember her saying, she is breeding to A) help restore a fading breed and B)use them in her sled teams. Money is not her thing at all.

Renee can provide more information, she knew her longer than I did.
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