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Old 10-20-2006, 02:07 PM
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Old English Sheepdog
Bearded Collie
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Tibetan Spaniel
Lowchen

I love these shaggy looking breeds. Anyone own any or have knowledge of them?

They all shed right?
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:53 PM
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I had an Old English Sheepdog when I was a teenager. Wonderful friendly dog, very active but not hyper. Good with other dogs and we had chickens and ducks as well, she was good with them too (although a lot of that comes down to socialisation). Yes she shed a lot and needed a LOT of grooming on top of that, even though we kept her clipped short.
If it wasn't for the grooming I'd have one again. I just adore them.

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Old 10-20-2006, 09:11 PM
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My friend has bearded collies and the actually don't shed all that much- each individual hair is long though so you know what that's like.
I'm not sure what qualities you're looking for in a dog. I like beardies to me the only downside is I can't see their eyes and I hate haing to put my dogs hair up! They are also quite vocal and seem to mature very late but they are friendly, happy , smart dogs. I prefer them to the OES.
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I got to spend some time with two Lowchens today - show cut of course but OMG are they little darlings!! I really fell for the breed today lol

They were so small and so puffy at the top and bald at the bottom lol

They were at the show secratarys table today and they'd sit on booster seats with their front paws on the table.. there was a little bowl that said "Treats, please give me one" on it and they'd sit there waiting for treats lol
They were just adorable!

and yes - ALL of those breeds shed.

With the Old English and the Beardy - they require LOTS of DAILY grooming or they will knot up.. especially the Beardy - their coat gets fairly long and without grooming they can look rather nasty.

I didn't see a Lowland today, but I have seen them before places and they are adorable as well. I dont know much about the spaneil though.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:42 PM
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Yeah, Beardies can get pretty ratty in a hurry; can't say much about the temperments because the two I've met are sweet when they want to be, but holy crap look out if they're feeling quirky.

OES..again, the bunch that I've met are pretty sweet most of the time, but a little dense and I keep running into a smattering of dog aggression with them that is hard to redirect because of the "denseness".
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:07 PM
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I beg to differ about the beardies and grooming.
Beardies have sort of slick, non fuzzy coats almost like human hair so sure they need grooming and look a bit ratty without being brushed but they don't actually matt all that much. I worked my friends beardie for her in the manners class she taught and that dog didn't get brushed or groomed in that 8 weeks and although she looked a bit ratty, she was not matted. That's a question I specifically asked because I was really curious about how bad the upkeep was on that long hair.
OES have more fuzzy puffy hair that matts up really easily.
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Old 10-20-2006, 11:24 PM
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We've had a few Beardies come into work for a groom and they generally do have some matts in them(not horrible thouhg).. it all depends on the coat texture though as well. I caught a glimpse of one Beardy walking in to their grooming section at the show today and just from walking from the vehicle to the arena it ended up with some tangles in his fur.. i could only imagine what a week without brushing would do...
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:47 AM
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what great replies!
I have loved the OES for a long time, but boy, I could not deal with all that hair me thinks. Same with the beardie.
There is also the tibetan terrier, which are so neat; to me they remind me of a beardie.

I think the tibet breeds: Tibetan Mastiff, Tibetan Terrier, Tibetan Spaniel, Lhasa Apso and I think Shih-Tzu (is the last one right) or so fascinating in how they worked together.
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:20 AM
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Coats and grooming / shedding is a funny thing. I have often heard people say they want a short coated breed because they don't want so much hair in their house but many if not most short coated breeds actually shed far more than most long coated breeds and short hair often is thetype that gets easily embedded into furniture and clothing and is really tough to vacuum up whereas longer hair balls up unto little (or big LOL) tumble weeds that you can suck up with the vacuum. Think about the rotties, pugs, shepherds, labs, corgis -- doesn't look like much hair but it's LOTS.
Then there's the longer coats that shed every day vs the ones that blow their coat twice a year and hardly shed other than that.

My aussie basically doesn't shed except when she's blowing her coat and even then I'm having to help it out with a shedding rake. My border collie shed a little bit all the time so I'm constantly vacuumimg up black tumble weeds. Then there was that cattle dog we had I had to vacuum AND use the tape roller thing to try to get his hair out of my sofa.
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Ive showed some PONS and they are guardy and like to talk back very active breed . I grew up with a OES very active goofy and broke my grandmas hip when Barney took up on her.

Pon is easier and smaller but Both of them required extensive grooming .
Best of luck in your choice.
Have you seen a bolonka? they are colored havanese type dogs from russia and are small.
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