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Old 10-12-2006, 09:38 PM
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I have recently been wondering about this. I know tail docking started because the owners wanted to prevent injuries way back then. But how did they decide how short to dock? I mean a Rott has a very short stub, a boxer has a little more and a Weim has a very long stub. Also, are any breeds natural bobtails? I had always heard that corgi's were.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:49 PM
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No clue ! Guess by the breeder's standard .
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:03 PM
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With the Rotties, I'm pretty syre it was kept short to prevent their tails from getting stepped on while droving Cattle and was also docked to remove a 'handle' from the dog while guarding. With Weims and a few other sporting breeds, it was strictly to prevent the tails from getting hurt and/or broked but they left enough there so that they could still properly point and have somewhat of a rudder while swimming (this is what I was told by a Weim and Vizsla owner once). A lot of the breeds you see today who are docked extremely short (ex: Rottweiler) weren't docked as short a long time ago, judges for conformation shows just seem to prefer the short tail I guess so gradually they started docking shorter. As far as the Boxer and Doberman goes, I'm pretty sure they were also docked to get rid of handles as they are/were used as guarding breeds. Many Terriers were docked to prevent tail breakage but were left long enough to grab as a handle to get a dog out of a hole. All of this is just what I've been told over the years, and what I've read.

Some breeds are natural bob tails. I think those would be the Old English Sheepdog (not sure if any are born with long tails, but I know a lot are natural bobs)), Catahoula Leopard Dog (some or born with bobtails, some have full tails), Australian Shepherd (again some are, some aren't), Pembroke Welsh Corgis (some are, some aren't), and a possibly a few others that I can't think of right now.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:29 PM
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I understand the reason ... the Op was the length .
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:33 PM
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I tried my best to explain the different lengths and why they are the way they are, hopefully someone else who can explain better will see this thread.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:58 PM
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[QUOTE=StillandSilent;479485]IAlso, are any breeds natural bobtails?

The French Bulldog has a natural kind of 'bobtail'. A lot of people ask why I have had my dog's tail docked, and some don't even believe me when I tell them that it is 100% natural
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:46 AM
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I have to see that you don't see many docked dogs showing here in Europe because it's illegal now. Cropping ears and docking tails is supposed to be unethical and I have to say that I feel quite happy about it.
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Old 10-14-2006, 02:54 AM
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What exactly IS Tail docking??
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:37 AM
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Cutting the tail off after birth...... well known with working breeds like Spaniels, Dobermans, Boxers and so on.....
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Old 10-14-2006, 11:12 AM
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For my breed some are born naturally docked so they can be done at the 3rd digit and sadly the new thrend of dog fighting taking over native countries have a 5 digit dock so they can pull them apart and use the tail high posture to start aggressive issues.
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