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Old 09-26-2006, 11:21 AM
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has anybody heard of this breeder?
http://www.longcoatgermanshepherds.c...Shepherds.html
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:24 AM
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I live in the Uk, and the utonagan is a big bone of contention here, they were split from the NI and in fact the KC have not recognised them as a breed although if you talk to the club they will say that the KC is considering it, but there is a lot of argumenting going on between NI and utonagan owners as to who has the correct "breed" basically they are just cross breeds and until they come up with a realistic breed standard that details more than it should look like a wolf I dont think there is going to be any recognition, and to add I have known some Utes and NI's to have less than perfect temperment that the breeders stress so much that they have.

I would stick to either a siberian or a Malamute, so long as you can in fact handle them as they are not the easiest of breeds to own. contact the Alaskan Malamute Club of america to get a recommended breeders list.

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:25 PM
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I dont know that breed I love the look of the dogs but im havign a hard time finding any OFA titles or anything. But they are wolf like and great looking BIG dogs.....Dont mean they are not there just the websites is not too user friendly for a breeder check list.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:35 PM
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Aurora,

Glad you decided against a wolfdog. They are for extremely experienced folks only, and should be acquired from rescue. Here's the law for your state regarding wolfdogs (source):

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A person or incorporated or unincorporated organization may not harbor or move within Maryland any live wolves or hybrids, for which there is no U.S.D.A. certified vaccine against rabies, without first having obtained a permit from the Service.
And no, I don't like the long haired GSD breeder you linked to. Screams puppy farming and BYBing to me. Their "foster breeder" program gives me the creeps as well.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:44 PM
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i don't really like her either, I only liked the good articles. And I knew that if i wanted a wolfdog, i would have to move, but thanks for the info.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:27 PM
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Aurora, I may be the person you were thinking of.

Bimmer is a once-in-a-lifetime dog. He's a rescue - very low wolf content, I suspect and mainly German Shepherd. As wonderful as he is, I would never just recommend a wolf/dog X to anyone. You must evaluate these creatures on a one-on-one basis. There are too many variables that enter in, and I firmly believe RESCUE ONLY. The people who purposely breed wolf/dog crosses should not be encouraged in any way.

I am glad to read that you've made a very sensible and responsible decision!
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:07 PM
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I am glad you strayed away from getting a wolfdog or cross.

The HS that I worked at here had a puppy brought in that was found on the front steps of an apartment. When they brought it in we realized that it was a coyote pup about 10 weeks old. He had a collar on him which meant he had been in captivity. He stayed at the shelter with us for a few weeks until we could find a zoo for him. In that time I had to spend a lot of time with him. I was feeding him some raw hamburger the one day and I was sitting in his cage. There was a piece of hamburger that laying about 10 inches away from him so I used my hand to push it toward him. At that very moment the coyote came out in him. He growled and snarled in their high pitched voice and came after my hand. Here was this cute little puppy that seemed so loving wanting to chomp off my hand if he had the chance. And this was at only 10 weeks old.

So even though you can take the dog out of the wild you can't take the wild out of the dog. Wild animals will ALWAYS be wild animals.;
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:08 PM
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I absolutely agree with Renee. If you think you can handle a wolf cross, I'd get in touch with rescue. The people in rescue will be able to give you not only a great description of wolfdogs and their mannerisms (they aren't like dogs . . .) but they could match you up with the best individual possible for you.

Personally, I agree with your decision. I'd go with a dog. A light-coloured German Shepherd would work. Heck, go to your shelter and adopt a shepherd/husky or shepherd/malamute mix. There are tons of them out there.
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Here are some other sites for the OP to check out:

SiberianRescue.com

MalamuteRescue.org

The Wolf Dunn
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:01 PM
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If you do decided on a wolf hybrid here is the website of a reputable breeder in Florida. http://www.wolfhybrids.com/ I know two people who ordered pups from them (not that I condone ordering a dog) but one turned out to be just an absolute sweetheart (45%wolf and the rest Malamute) while the other one was afraid of most people, VERY destructive, jumped 7 foot fences, had constant stomache isues and ultimately escaped and got hit by a car. He was 65% wolf. The lowe the percentage the better pet they can make. I wouldn't completely say wolf hybrids dont make great pets. They just dont make great pets to 98% of the people that want them.
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