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Old 08-23-2006, 09:51 AM
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and to whatszmatter- There are probably thousands of people that breed dogs everyday that have been misinformed (such as myself), or simply just breed them because they want a family of dogs.
and no offence your adding to all the dogs in rescue homes being put down. if they wanted to have a chi then couldn't you tel them to look i rescu homes or get one from a breeder, the breeder of your chi dosnt seem to know much. sorry and i hope your chi is ok and so are he pups
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:16 AM
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I'm crossing my fingers for you. All the advice I could of given you is already here. Just make sure you give that breeder a piece of your mind!!

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Old 08-23-2006, 11:52 AM
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This is just my opinion. Being a breeder and being involved in rescue I will never have a dog spayed while pregnant. I am against it with humans AND with animals. Dogs are living, breathing beings. I value the life of an animal just as much as a person. I would rather take my chances. IF there are any abnormalities then being PTS is an option. It will be heartbreaking but I would rather take my chances instead of just automatically aborting. If we were discussing a dog in a shelter my opinion may be a little different.
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:54 AM
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Making the decision to abort must have been very hard on you.....please don't be too hard on yourself now.......you didn't realise what you were getting involved in and you've had to learn the hard way
I am so glad that your doing whats right for your girl and the puppies.
Also that your recognising that the boy could also have problems.

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and i havent thought of this yet, but my paco probably has something too, which i guess ill have to get him tested for
I just wanted to ask though.......you say that the boy could have the same problems........am i right in assuming then that they came from the same litter?
If so then they should never have been mated together being littermates....as i said, that is an assumption and forgive me if i am wrong in thinking that.

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Old 08-23-2006, 01:36 PM
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Oh WOW is all I can say!!
Umm Theres alot of good advise here. Next time before you decide to breed think about some of the things mentioned here.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:46 PM
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Well, from what we were told they arent from the same litter. BUt who knows after this.

How much more pricy is PTS than aborting?? and what do the rest of you think of that option? PTS if they have problems versus abortion?
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:08 PM
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Well, from what we were told they arent from the same litter. BUt who knows after this.

How much more pricy is PTS than aborting?? and what do the rest of you think of that option? PTS if they have problems versus abortion?
Did you see 2 sets of parents for the Bitch and Dog? If not then going on all that the "Breeder" has told you about breeding then i would be inclined to beleive that the 2 are from the same litter.

I wouldn't know about prices of either.
But IMO i would abort rather than waiting.

1: you are putting alot of strain on mums hips if you allow her to carry these puppies.

2: It will be a whole lot harder on you to have to go and make the decision of PTS any puppies once they are born.

Just my opinion though.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:12 PM
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If you do decide to let your girl give birth to this litter, make sure you guarantee the adopters that you can take them back at any time if they ever can't take care of/do not want the pup. If they end up having have HD then it's up to you: if it's severe you may want to put them to sleep, if it's not then they can continue on with medication. Just make sure that the potential adopters are fully aware that these pups may have the same problems as their parents and the vet bills can be pricey. This may mean that they will end up staying with you, but remember, it's probably best for them.

I say PTS if they have problems, as long as you are pysically/financially able to take full responsibility for all them for the rest of their lives, whether their lives be short or long. If you can't, then I believe it's best to abort.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:57 PM
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I want to share with you guys the same thing i just said in a private msg, so im going to copy paste it

"Well lizzie, I am calling vets now. So far only 1 out of 5 has told me they can abort puppies. A couple have suggested letting her have the babies anyway

then theyve also suggested coming in and doing xrays to see if she even has the problem, because the last vet didnt do that.

this is already becoming a costly endeavor, and she hasnt even had the puppies:-\. The vets im asking about this are acting like its not possible to abort them!

Two of them have flat out told me its not possible to do.

im so confused! i was like um well i heard that you can and she was like well you should go talk to whoever told you that."


so anyway, Im calling more places to figure out the cheapest route.

Ideally I'd like to have blood work done and if there is a genetic problem then abort them. I hate aborting, i hate the idea of putting to sleep. I just hate all of it. it sounds so cruel, but i'm going to talk with vets and see what they say. Once i get that new credit card im going to get this stuff checked out.

I'm worried vets will try to upsell me, i'm only 19 and I dont have alot of money, ( i have a lottt of credit because of my parents though ) I just need done what *needs* to be done because im paying for it myself.
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:00 PM
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I hope you can get everything sorted out...Good Luck...
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