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Old 08-22-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Breeding my chihuahuas (help!!)

I know alot of people disagree with breeding untitled dogs and such. However ever since I got my little girl fajita, everyone has wanted one of her pups. My mom even got a boy dog, paco so that she could have a playmate. Now they love eachother so much!

After alot of thought and consideration we have decided to breed her, so please, if you could read this without bias or prejudice. I need real advice, regardless of your opinions so that i can prepare myself, and my dog- and take care of the puppies.

Anyway, fajita is about a year and a half years old now. Paco is a little less. They started having sex back in july. Around july 12th. So She's about 2/3 of the way there. (63 days right?).

I have plenty of homes already lined up for the puppies (6 so far, and if she even has that many- all of these people are people i know personally, some even family and i am not selling any of the puppies, just giving them away. after this birth she is being spayed as well) She is (when not pregnant lol) a 4 lb chihuahua, and paco is probably 2 or 3.

The breeder we bought her from told us to make sure to wait atleast till her second heat to breed them (which we did) and make sure the male is smaller than the female. (he has longer legs but her body mass is so much more than his so hopefully that works as well)

I have several websites bookmarked with directions and how to's to assisting the dog in birth, and i've watched a couple videos on it (gross i know but i was curious as to what to expect) And my cousin who used to work in a vet office, and helped her chihuahuas give birth is assisting me with it.

I lost my job the week after they started to have sex. And she was at the vet right before she had sex because i thought she might have a skin problem because her hair became really thin (but its all grown back now) The vet said he thinks she has hip displasia (i think that is what he said it was) I havent had money to go back and get it checked, or to get xrays to see.

So I'm in a bit of a pickle. I start a new job on monday, and ill have a paycheck on the 7th of september... so its cutting it really close. I'll be using the first few checks for the puppies/whatever needs done for fajita.

But the vet was playing with her hip, and he said something about it popping or something, and said that means she has it. However she shows no signs of it at all. people talk about dogs walking funny or bunny hopping. she sometimes hops when she runs, but she has always done that ever since i got her ( on occassion anyway) and she was a month or two old. and its not so much a hopping its like her front legs and her back legs move with the partnering leg when she runs... its odd but ive never thought anything of it.

She shows no signs of being in pain, her back legs dont walk "close" together. she doesnt appear to have any problems standing up.

My question, though is if she has it, is it 100% chance the puppies will? I intend to get it checked out within the next couple weeks.

I thought only big dogs get it... shes a very very small chihuahua.

Also, if the male dog is smaller than the female, is it likely a C section will be needed?

thanks all for your help!

ps both chihuahuas are registered pure breds. the breeding has been breeding dogs for 30 years. she had about 14 beautiful dogs, and she was a nice lady. I dont remember if there was any heath garuntee or anything when we bought her. but i doubt she would sell people dogs with genetic defects... but still. what do you think?
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:50 PM
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I think they're all questions you should have had answers to before you did any of this. Other than that I'll have to let someone else give you the coddling you seek cause if I said what I thought I'd probably be banned.
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:54 PM
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This is why you run health screens BEFORE you breed! If your chi is indeed dysplastic, there is a good chance that at least some of her puppies will be as well. Have you had your male chi checked for dysplasia or luxating patellas etc.?

The second heat cycle is too early to breed a dog. They should be at the very least two years old and on their fourth cycle. The reproductive specialist I have been speaking with regarding the future breeding of Alice informed me that the reason it is so important to wait until at least two years is because that is when the bitch's pelvis is all the way done growing. Anything before that could cause delivery problems which chis' are very prone to in the first place. During my vet clinic years, the majority of dogs we saw that needed c-sections were chis. They usually lost the puppies and at one point a client lost his chi and all the pups. It was very sad. Please set aside $700-$1200 in case your chi needs a c-section as well and learn the warning signs of a bitch in labor distress.

At this point you need to confirm if she does or does not have hip dysplasia. If she does, you need to inform the future puppy owners and if they aren't comfortable getting a puppy from you, the most responsible thing to do would be to keep all the puppies. You brought them into the world, that means YOU are responsible that they get loving homes whether it be with you or someone else, hip dysplasia or no hip dysplasia.

I can't emphasise enough how important health screens are prior to breeding. They prevent situations like yours.

I wish your dog the best in this endeavour.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:04 PM
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thanks for the quick replies. The breeder we got them from spoke of all that, so i assumed since their parents were they were fine too. I guess human ignorance. I am waiting on a new capital one card that i opened (just for this) to come in the mail so that i'll have money incase i do have to have a c section (cuz ive heard they were expensive)

And I already planned on keeping one of the puppies, the other ones won't be a problem if there is a problem.

and to whatszmatter- There are probably thousands of people that breed dogs everyday that have been misinformed (such as myself), or simply just breed them because they want a family of dogs. I could be running a puppy mill, I could be selling dogs to china to get them eaten or something- but I'm not. I'm a regular person just like you, though I will tell you, the reason I put at the begining of this page- please post without prejudice, is because I know alot of die hard "know it all" dog lovers are quite hostile. I was hoping to attract people to my thread that could offer insight, because they "care" about the dogs. Obviously you can't get past your opinions enough to help someone make the best of the situation for the sake of the DOGS.

Thanks though, showpug
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:17 PM
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I could be selling dogs to china to get them eaten or something
I dont think they eat dogs no more, especially not chihuahuas and why would they want to buy dogs from america? they got their own dogs in china.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:21 PM
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I didn't think much of that when i said it. lol, but all i was saying is there are worse things i could be with my dogs than breeding them so that other family members can enjoy them as well.

Though, china did recently order an extermination of dogs. And they killed over 50 thousand of them, by clubbing. They just walked through the streets and smacked peoples pets with clubs and threw them into a truck. So maybe there is a shortage after that.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:24 PM
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I was hoping to attract people to my thread that could offer insight, because they "care" about the dogs.
I care about dogs....thats why I am telling you please dont breed them, UNLESS you are trying to better the breed and have done all the proper health testing and etc...

Do you honestly think, the people that care about the welfare of the animals are going to come to your thread and say "good job you asked for advice"

I know I wont...

So go ahead and breed your dogs, and whats going to happen if the people that say they want puppies dont want them..

Are you planning on keeping them??

Whats going to happen if you have a weak pup and you have to get up every hour on the hour (or more) to feed him/her??

What are you going to do if the mother rejects them??

*I'm done*
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:29 PM
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I'm prepared for all of that, and no, i dont expect "kudos, you asked for advice".


Though, people that care about animal welfare would probably atleast give that advice, regardless of their own opinions.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:32 PM
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Um, please don't get into detail on that because hearing stuff of that sort makes me sick to my stomach! (killing animals for no reason with clubs?) All I have to say is good luck with your puppies and I hope they are all healthy... I would give you more advice if I could, but I no nothing about breeding, sorry!
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:47 PM
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The vet said he thinks she has hip displasia
breeding a dog with hip dyplasia is probably one of the worst breeding decisions you could have made, not just for the dog breed but for you,

she will have difficulty giving birth and you will most likely need a cesarian(sp)

also if you do indeed give these puppys to friends and familys, if the puppies end up with this disease then those people are gonna end up paying vet bills 1000 + and they will more then likely need multiple operations.

the only advice i can give you would be to get a book, if you PM bubbatd, then she can point in the direction of a great puppy book
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