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Old 08-25-2006, 09:13 PM
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I have received a few emails from her. She's yet to answer me about any health tests or guarantees that she may/may not offer. She swears she's been to my site, but unless she's visited chaz...or got it from me...it's not an easy site to look up. She can't spell in her emails or use correct grammar. Maybe it's a kid...but didn't she say she was 68? Or was that another byb? Either way, it's another byb that is agressive and can not answer any questions or give explanations.
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:20 PM
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Default The Backyard Breeders' and Puppy Millers' Big Book of Old Excuses

The Backyard Breeders' and Puppy Millers' Big Book of Old Excuses
© Denna Pace 2001
1. When called on bad breeding practices, ALWAYS claim that you are merely an innocent posting as a favor to a friend or family member.

2. Point out that everybody you know breeds this way, therefore it must be
okay.

3. Claim that "snobby show breeders" are only criticizing you because they
want to corner the market on puppy profit.

4. Claim that a Champion in the pedigree is just as good as 56 Champions in the pedigree. Not that it matters, because you doubt that there is such a
thing as a dog with 56 champions in the pedigree.

5. Claim that you are just trying to produce good pets, therefore good pets
are all you need for breeding.

6. When asked about health testing, enthusiastically point out that your
bitch had a health checkup before breeding.

7. Be sure to mention that you do not need to run such health tests as OFA,
CERF, thyroid, cardiac, patellae, etc., because your dogs look healthy and
had no visible problems at their last vet checkup.

8. Point out that these tests cost too much and would cut into your profit
margin. Be sure to champion the right of poor people to breed dogs.

9. Confidently assure worried rescuers that no puppy you produce, or any of
their puppies or grand puppies or great-grandpuppies will end up in shelters
because you have a bunch of friends who have told you that they'd like a pup
from your bitch.

10. Point out that you don't need Championships or working titles on your
dogs because you are breeding for temperament and your dog is really sweet.

11. Silence those annoying people who ask about your health guarantee by
assuring them that buyers can return any sick puppies and you will replace
it with another pup as long as it got sick within a certain amount of time
of sale and as long as you don't think the buyer did something to make the
puppy sick.

12. If your breed or line is rare (or you have a "rare" color, or believe
your breed or color is rare), be sure to remind everyone that you do not
need to show, temperament test, or health test your breeding stock because
you are doing the world a service by continuing this "rare" breed/color/line.

13. No matter what anyone else says, claim that you obviously know what you are doing because you've been breeding for a long time. Point to the
hundreds of puppies you've pumped out over the years as proof.

14. If this is your first attempt at breeding, make sure to remind everyone
that you HAVE to breed your dog because how else are you going to learn how to breed?

15. Assure everyone that your dog does not need to be shown because you were assured by someone at Petsmart/the park/the vet's office/a friend that your dog is a perfect example of the breed.

16. Always remember that "rare" colors, oversized or undersized dogs, and
mixes of popular breeds are great selling points. Anyone who doesn't think
so is obviously not in tune with their customers' wishes.

17. Claim that your dogs are better because they are not inbred, as
inbreeding obviously produces sick/stupid/deformed dogs. If breeding poo [as in "Cock-a-Poo," "Peek-a-Poo," etc.] dogs or other mutts, always point to "hybrid vigor" as proof of your dogs' superiority.

18. Remind everyone that you do not need a waiting list because your puppies are cute.

19. Assure everyone that your puppies will not end up in shelters because
they are cute.

20. Claim that YOUR breed never ends up in shelters in your area, therefore
your puppies will never end up in shelters.

21. If asked why you think your dogs are breeding quality, point out that
they "have papers." Extra points awarded for using the phrase "AKC
Certified." Double points if those papers come from the Continental Kennel
Club.

22. If you sell a sick puppy, always blame the owners for making it sick. If
the owners are clearly not responsible, blame their vet. (see #11)

23. If presented with irrefutable evidence proving you wrong on any excuses
you have used, pretend your server did not receive the post/e-mail.

24. Claim that none of the rules of ethical breeding apply to you because
you only intend to have one litter and therefore aren't a "real" breeder.

25. If all else fails, tell everyone who criticizes you to "get a life."

Written by Denna Pace . It was compiled by reading the horrible BYB ads on rec.pets.dogs.breed. Please credit when quoting.
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:49 PM
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no puppy you produce, or any of
their puppies or grand puppies or great-grandpuppies will end up in shelters
because you have a bunch of friends who have told you that they'd like a pup
from your bitch.
If I could have a quarter for the number of times I've heard this tired excuse this WEEK....

I wouldn't have to pay for a laundry card at school this year. (And this girl goes through a LOT of laundry).

If this crap were actually true there would be maybe 3 or 4 dogs at my local animal shelter.
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Old 08-26-2006, 04:38 PM
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I came to this thread late, but thought I would check out the website anyway. Check out how she made the changes to the site, based on the other comments in this thread. Sometimes, it is almost word for word! Not sure which of these faces to add:
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Old 08-26-2006, 08:42 PM
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That's too funny!!! LOL She still doesn't mention about health testing or what kinds of guarantee's offered.
I emailed her with all of the problems that everyone found and apparently she decided to "argue" with me in the emails but changed her site anyways. Yep, another BYB in action.
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:28 AM
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The sites down, but lovely.. another person pissing in the gene pools

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This is really sad when others have to put others down , just to make them selfs feel important.
Maybe this person is just starting out or something.
Did you ever hear the saying: treat others as you would want to be treated.
so all i have to say is shame on you!
That's not how you start out. Shame on you for making excuses for her.

"Treat others as you would want to be treated." If I was a BYB, I hope someone would question me and call me on it.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:39 PM
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It's really hard to be a good breeder, and do the right thing. With that being said, I just get befuddled at people who have that "just starting out" attitude. My grandma used to say, "Do something right the first time."

It's kind of reminds me of this situation. Why would you want to breed and breed when you have no clue what you're looking for in a good dog? You won't learn that over time, especially if you start out with lower quality dogs, you will inevitable end up with worse quality dogs.
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This is what her site shows up for me now;

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Old 08-30-2006, 06:25 PM
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LMAO I wonder if it's just the site that's down (moved) or if she's actually stopped doing it.
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:25 AM
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Let me guess, you own the website in question?
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