I think i may be changing someones mind on......

[bubbatd]

Kudos !!!!! I'm trying to convince my neighbor to neuter her male standard poodle ..............

[MK&C]

Originally Posted by Caren+Bailey

Her coat is shorter than the Groenendael.......but there are simalarities there.
I will take a pic of her next time i go over to post up

It could be a black mal x gsd

[Whisper]

Great for you! I'm so glad you did that. That's how people learn. E d u c a t i on. Go you!!!

[princess_poppy]

i think it's strange, many people want to give there dog a first litter before they spay them, someone i know wanted to do that, its sad, well done

[lakotasong]

Just wanted to add another KUDOS to the OP for trying to educate this owner. Hopefully she'll listen. Even changing one person's mind makes a difference!

[Jynx]

actually the original poster said the dog was a purebred correct? and yes I was referring to the Belgians,,there are no "Belgiums"..

Sounds like a Belgian Sheepdog/Groendal, even with a shorter coat, if it's young, sometimes their coats really don't come in full until maturity, also since there are 4 varieties, if mal is somewhere in the backround (in Europe the 4 varieties can interbreed, they are considered one breed over there),
could be the reasoning.

Keep talking to her, good for you!
diane

[Caren+Bailey]

Originally Posted by Jynx

actually the original poster said the dog was a purebred correct? and yes I was referring to the Belgians,,there are no "Belgiums"..

diane

Sorry for not realising the spelling of "Belgian" but this is what i meant.

Originally Posted by Caren+Bailey

Also a quick question here as i am a little naive to Breeds.........German and Belgium are 2 different breeds right?? Have to ask b/c i assumed that they are.
But she said that she was told the dog is Purebred Belgium, She saw both parents and one is Belgium, the other German, wouldn't that make the dog a Cross breed?

Also i didn't state that the dog is Purebred....I was in fact asking b/c i don't know if she would be considered Purebred.

[SummerRiot]

It sounds like she may have a Black Malinois on her hands.. unshowable in Conformation - but can make a good working dog.
She *could* also have a black GSD.

BUT if its a German/Belgian cross.. you are just ASKING for health issues!!

Where did she get that pup from?

I'm SOOo glad that you have persuaded her out of breeder her though!

No need to mix up yet another fine working dog (Belgians) to the BYBs!

Sounds like a Belgian Sheepdog/Groendal, even with a shorter coat, if it's young, sometimes their coats really don't come in full until maturity, also since there are 4 varieties, if mal is somewhere in the backround (in Europe the 4 varieties can interbreed, they are considered one breed over there),
could be the reasoning.

There really is no "belgium shepherd",, the dog is most likely a German Shepherd, maybe bred in Belgium? ancestors from Belgium? But there is no
"breed" called Belgium Shepherd,

A Belgian Sheepdog and a Gronendael are the EXACT same variety. Not sure if you knew that or not? There IS such breed as a Belgian SHepherd in the AKC - Belgian Shepherd is the Tervuren variety. I own one, but hes from the CKC so he is a "vatiety". Mature coats dont grow in until they are around 1yr old as well.
In the CKC all Belgians can interbreed. Its only really "acceptable" for a showable Belgian to breed the Tervs and Grons together though. If you breed a Laek to another - you'll get an unshowable litter for conformation, if you breed a Gron-Mal you will get an unshowable litter for conformation. If you breed a Terv - Mal - you'll get short coated Tervs or reg. Mals.

[SummerRiot]

Originally Posted by MK&C

-had to double-check that on petfinder and saw Riot's pic again for the breed example- Such a handsome boy

But anyway, back on topic...sounds like a groenendael mix, then

hehe Just saw this as well

Riot says Thank-you lol

PS - I hope he wasn't on "petfinder"!!! lol I hope it was dogbreedinfo! lmao

[Caren+Bailey]

Summer............she got her from a BYB, but then she was none the wiser when buying her that it was wrong to buy from a BYB.

I really should take some photos of her to post.
I will do that next time i go over there.